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cyrano ( cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 2 years ago

Schooled by Trump, Americans are learning to dislike their allies

www.economist.com

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Schooled by Trump, Americans are learning to dislike their allies

www.economist.com

cyrano ( cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to Europe@feddit.orgEnglish · 2 years ago
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Our polling shows that Americans’ and Europeans’ attitudes towards each other are changing quickly

https://archive.is/2025.04.01-221630/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/03/31/schooled-by-trump-americans-are-learning-to-dislike-their-allies

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    • BigShammy80 ( BigShammy80@feddit.org ) 
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      Sums it up perfectly

  • cyrano ( cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) OP
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    Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia.

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    Republican americans are in fact cosplaying the movie idiocracy but with a nazi germany crossover.

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      No, and I start to hate Idiocracy-comparisons. Remember the one crucial thing they did in the movie: listen to the one person most able to solve their problem and then make him president, not put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him.

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        Well, they did put some idiot in charge and build a personality cult around him, but the idiot wasn’t malicious.

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          That supposed idiot was at the time the smartest living person. Trump is all but that.

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    Oh look, you can physically see the Democrat shift to the right on the chart.

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    I’m just one guy, but absolutely not me. I hate my fellow Americans a million times more than anyone in Canada, or Europe.

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        Man, looking closely at this is comical. Conservatives are the most flock-minded people on Earth, whatever their taking heads say instantly becomes their new zeitgeist. The irony of conservatives calling everyone else sheep is… Well I guess there’s a reason I so often hear the phrase “every conservative accusation is a confession”.

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          This is the power of the algos.

          I had two Reddit accounts and one was solely used for gaming. Which started to give me feeds completely different then my more left, progressivy main account.

          I would get these heavy metal videos about Mexican rapists that were deported on the one linked with gaming. (A clear conservative take). Showed Canadians as commies / socialist evil staties. Like dudes face - deportation date - what they were convicted of - murder or rape. It was wild.

          And some of my liberal social main account demonstrated or showed a shit load of Canadian content that linked them with MAGA. And consistently highlighted their crimes against indigenous people. With tag lines of like “they want to talk about what we do - look at what they do”.

          so I’m not even sure if the blue line ticking up is “I hate Canadians” or “they are magats too”

          To be clear - am American - hate Americans - hate social media (Lemmy is my last social hope / account left) am team Canada all the way / Europe all the way.

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    There is a French saying that perfectly fits current situation :

    You don’t need enemies when you have this kind of friends.

    Although I don’t know if it’s specifically French.

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    What did Canada do in 2018?

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      Probably the same tariff stuff https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-steel-aluminum-tariffs-canada-mexico-b2696606.html

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    Are they fitting the curve on like 3 points for 24 and 25? I don’t think it’s untrue but why publish this with such a low-hanging fruit to delegitimize the argument

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    What I find surprising is that it was decreasing before, what happened in 2018?

    EDIT : oh yeah, Trump’s first term started in 2017, I just didn’t realise that time passes so fast

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      Probably tariff https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-steel-aluminum-tariffs-canada-mexico-b2696606.html

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    Americans Republicans. FIFY

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      Republicans are Americans.
      And they control the entire government and the most viewed media right now.

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        Well according to them they’re the only Americans. Which I’m fine with, I REALLY don’t want the label.

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    How was this question phrased in the survey?

    Because in a very literal sense, Canada is being unfriendly. They should be. Amerikkka needs like infinite punishment right now.

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    Our allies are fine. I’m learning to dislike my countrymen. Not that there’s a lot of new ground to cover on that subject…

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    Hope go isolationist like in past

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    I’d like to see these graphs only relating to their opinions on Russia and North Korea from the 1980s, at least, through now.

    This is just insane, though. The decoupling from reality is seemingly total.

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