ELI5 this for me, I’m not even on this sub but whatever.
Everyone loves Messi, the dude takes a metric shit ton of forbidden drugs because he has a medical issue, wins a WC and competes because everyone recognises and accepts a medical condition is an acceptable reason to have exceptions.
Then, enter trans athletes. They have a medical condition, they take drugs to remediate the fact they were born in the wrong body, they win because the karma for the immeasurable amount of suffering they endure is being good at a random sport. Everyone dislikes that and calls it cheating.
I’m not an ally or anything. Being in the EU and seeing the fandom of Messi, can someone please explain to me why that cunt of a tax dodger gets an exception and Mary from down the street, who just won the district football competition, and wants to live her life in peace, is called a cheater.
Just make it make sense, and while you’re at it, explain why the fuck is this a discussion that permeates the airwaves almost weekly.
They don’t do it because they think it’s unfair, they do it because they dislike trans people and don’t want to phrase it in a way that is outwardly offensive
No clue, nor am I inclined to use time to find out.
At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter. Success at sports is not only dedication, it’s also luck in the genetic lottery, regardless of the sport.
I believe I’m an outlier in this thought, I think that segregation between male and female sports make no sense.
Though honestly I can’t think of all that many mtf athletes either, it’s not like trans women are overrepresented in sports. Plus ftm athletes don’t support the narrative transphobes want to push around “men invading women’s spaces/sports” they tend to get forgotten in general, but especially in sports. There will be a lot of survivorship bias in how people perceive the success of trans athletes, any trans woman who does well will be seen as “unfair”, but any who are completely average at the sport won’t be noticed (or will be reported on misleadingly, like when Glenique Frank got 6,159th in the London Marathon and it was reported everywhere as “trans runner beats 14,000 women”). And like I said trans men already get ignored, so their inclusion in sports is definitely not being spoken about to anywhere near the same level. All of that combines to make trans women seem overrepresented in high level sports and trans men basically nonexistent but that’s not really accurate.
ELI5 this for me, I’m not even on this sub but whatever.
Everyone loves Messi, the dude takes a metric shit ton of forbidden drugs because he has a medical issue, wins a WC and competes because everyone recognises and accepts a medical condition is an acceptable reason to have exceptions.
Then, enter trans athletes. They have a medical condition, they take drugs to remediate the fact they were born in the wrong body, they win because the karma for the immeasurable amount of suffering they endure is being good at a random sport. Everyone dislikes that and calls it cheating.
I’m not an ally or anything. Being in the EU and seeing the fandom of Messi, can someone please explain to me why that cunt of a tax dodger gets an exception and Mary from down the street, who just won the district football competition, and wants to live her life in peace, is called a cheater.
Just make it make sense, and while you’re at it, explain why the fuck is this a discussion that permeates the airwaves almost weekly.
They don’t do it because they think it’s unfair, they do it because they dislike trans people and don’t want to phrase it in a way that is outwardly offensive
One single word explains everything, really: transphobia
I’m gonna be killed for this, but is the number of successes the same for F2M as it is for M2F? I’m genuinely curious.
I’ll gladly delete this if it’s terrible.
No clue, nor am I inclined to use time to find out.
At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter. Success at sports is not only dedication, it’s also luck in the genetic lottery, regardless of the sport.
I believe I’m an outlier in this thought, I think that segregation between male and female sports make no sense.
I don’t really follow sports all that closely, but it looks like there probably is?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/athletes-assigned-female-transitioned-mens-sports/
Though honestly I can’t think of all that many mtf athletes either, it’s not like trans women are overrepresented in sports. Plus ftm athletes don’t support the narrative transphobes want to push around “men invading women’s spaces/sports” they tend to get forgotten in general, but especially in sports. There will be a lot of survivorship bias in how people perceive the success of trans athletes, any trans woman who does well will be seen as “unfair”, but any who are completely average at the sport won’t be noticed (or will be reported on misleadingly, like when Glenique Frank got 6,159th in the London Marathon and it was reported everywhere as “trans runner beats 14,000 women”). And like I said trans men already get ignored, so their inclusion in sports is definitely not being spoken about to anywhere near the same level. All of that combines to make trans women seem overrepresented in high level sports and trans men basically nonexistent but that’s not really accurate.