I find it funny that Lia Thomas had an “unfair advantage” that helped her win one college championship (out of multiple she participated in) while staying far behind Katie Ledecky’s record time but Michael Phelps was just “naturally gifted” while shattering olympic records.
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I saw the dislikes and immediately knew he was pro trans.
They also made two shows (2 and 9 years ago) about trans rights where they were pro trans also. Since then I liked this show even more and feel like they have our back ❤️
i love how not one of the terfs that claim to be for fairness in sports even mention the four other cis women that placed ahead of riley and lia thomas.
ELI5 this for me, I’m not even on this sub but whatever.
Everyone loves Messi, the dude takes a metric shit ton of forbidden drugs because he has a medical issue, wins a WC and competes because everyone recognises and accepts a medical condition is an acceptable reason to have exceptions.
Then, enter trans athletes. They have a medical condition, they take drugs to remediate the fact they were born in the wrong body, they win because the karma for the immeasurable amount of suffering they endure is being good at a random sport. Everyone dislikes that and calls it cheating.
I’m not an ally or anything. Being in the EU and seeing the fandom of Messi, can someone please explain to me why that cunt of a tax dodger gets an exception and Mary from down the street, who just won the district football competition, and wants to live her life in peace, is called a cheater.
Just make it make sense, and while you’re at it, explain why the fuck is this a discussion that permeates the airwaves almost weekly.
They don’t do it because they think it’s unfair, they do it because they dislike trans people and don’t want to phrase it in a way that is outwardly offensive
One single word explains everything, really: transphobia
I’m gonna be killed for this, but is the number of successes the same for F2M as it is for M2F? I’m genuinely curious.
I’ll gladly delete this if it’s terrible.
No clue, nor am I inclined to use time to find out.
At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter. Success at sports is not only dedication, it’s also luck in the genetic lottery, regardless of the sport.
I believe I’m an outlier in this thought, I think that segregation between male and female sports make no sense.
I don’t really follow sports all that closely, but it looks like there probably is?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/athletes-assigned-female-transitioned-mens-sports/
Though honestly I can’t think of all that many mtf athletes either, it’s not like trans women are overrepresented in sports. Plus ftm athletes don’t support the narrative transphobes want to push around “men invading women’s spaces/sports” they tend to get forgotten in general, but especially in sports. There will be a lot of survivorship bias in how people perceive the success of trans athletes, any trans woman who does well will be seen as “unfair”, but any who are completely average at the sport won’t be noticed (or will be reported on misleadingly, like when Glenique Frank got 6,159th in the London Marathon and it was reported everywhere as “trans runner beats 14,000 women”). And like I said trans men already get ignored, so their inclusion in sports is definitely not being spoken about to anywhere near the same level. All of that combines to make trans women seem overrepresented in high level sports and trans men basically nonexistent but that’s not really accurate.
Also asserting that a person’s AGAB is “medically speaking, NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS!”
yes that is an actual quote from Last Week Tonight
This was one of his longest episodes on YouTube too!
My question to transphobic republicans is that would you be still against trans women in sports if they ate a vegan diet? Since you all love to claim that vegans are “weak and unhealthy”
“Cheeky little cunt aint he?” A londoner to his son
Aaah london true delight
Okay honest question. I have no idea what the truth here is, so please dont come at me.
There was this whole thing with a trans woman mma fighter, who won big or something. People said it was unfair.
Was it? Wasn’t it?
back when, i guess it made sense for me. I am all for people being who they are, but not participating in punching each other in the faces seemed like a fair compromise, i thought.
But i don’t know, is it? What do you guys say?
https://tube.fede.re/w/16650f54-3c69-4d81-b7ae-17f0a3889dbd
The John Oliver video goes through your concerns and talks about how:
a. most trans athletes haven’t been winning big, ppl with an agenda have been twisting facts to make it seem like they have.
b. a blanket ban is not the answer, but each sport competition making their own rules based on how many years of hrt the athlete has been on, how much of a difference sex makes for that sport, etc. Which is what was happening for years.
c. There are much bigger and more common issues with women’s sports that we need to address like coaches assaulting athletes, lack of resources compared to male teams, etc. And the same ppl claiming to protect women’s sports by banning trans athletes are voting against measures to fix these issues.
That makes a whole lot of sense.
I am generally against “across the board” rules, as it often hurts more people than they benefit. Making individual rules for each sport makes sense.
Also yes, do something about judges raping athletes, like wtf?
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