I want all the money I put in to be refunded in nonsequential bills, and give it to me in one of those fancy metal briefcases please.

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          Don’t rely on that. What was that old management manipulation tactic? Put a duck in everything you present, so management can say “that’s fine, just lose the duck” so they feel like they’ve left their mark and won’t be as likely to recommend changes that would add to your workload.
          If you depend on that, you’re going to fall for a lot of things that don’t have such obvious tells.

          • There’s a lot going on here that indicates AI, not the least being that for something that’s stylized to be a pencil illustration, the linework and colors are way too consistent. Also note:

            • The truncated eyes in panels 1 and 3
            • The paper generating spontaneously in the second panel
            • The inconsistency in the grass patches in panel 3
            • As I previously mentioned, there’s no reason to think there isn’t a jump in time between panel 1 and 2. She hears something on the TV, only to later realize while working that there’s no reason for her to continue if she’s already been written off as worthless. Both the inconsistencies in her eyes and in the grass could easily be compression artifacts (zoom in on her hair to see very blocky compression artifacts as the algorithm fails to capture detail). There’s also the fact that errors could easily just be human, as artists do make all those types of mistakes.

              The biggest thing that makes me think this is human made is the cropping on the left side, like someone cropped out the artist’s signature. If this is AI, the person who made it put a lot of trouble into some goofy 4d chess mind games

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          Also the weird-ass “aura” around the character in the last panel. Afaik AIs don’t really do layers so when they draw things that are supposed to be on top of a background they tend to avoid drawing anything around it

        • I’ve seen a lot of handwritten text and this is certainly within the range of handwriting styles, including the (in)consistencies.

          I’m not willing to judge either way from the look alone but AFAIK this was drawn (or generated) by Neurodivergentgeekgirl on Facebook. I don’t have a Facebook account so I can’t check what her creation history or attitude to AI is, which could give it away.

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    Weird how many here calls this Ai with no real proof.

    The only current evidence I see that this might be Ai generated is blur lines around the character in the second and third panel, but the consistency of such a stylized drawing remaining the same is so strong it’s either really well done Ai that included photoshopping or human art with photoshopping.

    A lot of you saying it’s AI clearly don’t work with it or have any understanding of it, because getting this level of consistency across 3 panels is very difficult. We’re talking about doing extra training involved around this specific character just to make sure you can get this type of consistency with 3 separate poses (my experience with it so far is in photo editing along with other digital editing tools).

    I feel like recently I’ve noticed a lot of people witch hunting real artists who make a small mistake or have a unique art style (like that of the webcomic There Are No Demons), and the default of calling anything generated by AI, even something that was actually well done, “slop” shows less of an actual analysis of the piece but blind band wagoning

    • It’s absolutely AI. The inconsistent arm length, the distorted/melty flowers in the third panel, the bottom of the TV stand, some other kinda melty/bendy lines here and there. The only thing to discuss really is whether or not pure AI art that isn’t sloppy like this comic should be allowed or not because of the ethical implications of AI.

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        Inconsistent arm length is only proof that someone might have issues with reference sizing, not AI. Webcomic Pixie and Brutus had it so bad the artist made it into a hilarious joke and then stated they’d finally make a size reference chart to keep it consistent in the future. Freaking animated series Steven Universe, a professional production, constantly had issues with not just limb lengths but size consistency as well. Size consistency is the worst reasoning of them all if anything.

        The flowers in the background could just be that the artist has issues with distance perspective / drawing. A lot of artists who don’t do backgrounds have that issue.

        And like I already mentioned, the best evidence so far would be the blur lines surrounding the character, which would be evidence of AI in that they added the character into these backgrounds, but not only could that also be just a standard blur tool (because the artist isn’t good at backgrounds), but it would be weird that someone using Ai to make this would go through all the work of training a custom LORA or model on this character specifically, but wouldn’t reduce the size of blurring in the parameters when inpainting. It’s possible, sure, but usually someone who already went to the lengths of learning how to train a model or such to achieve such consistent results would also quickly look up how to set the inpainting parameters to not show such a massive blur line.

        But the other thing to note that this might not be AI is the aspect ratio. Presumably this would have been done as separate panels on AI, and then you’d crop if needed and make a fake comic panels. If so, why would you crop the edges of the comic / leave them incomplete? Usually that’s specifically where an artist of this type of comic panel would sign their work too, if they chose too. Cropping out signatures is something commonly done by people reposting work done by real artists, and has been an issue for years as well.

        Now, all this is too say that it’s not definite that this is made by a human. The point is that there’s no strong evidence that it’s AI. The clothes are consistent, the shoes and fingers are as well. That there’s 5 fingers is actually suspicious, but it’s definitely something an amateur artist would choose to do.

        To me, the most likely case is this is a mix of AI and real drawn work / lots of manual editing work (for example, the mouth in panel 2 and 3 look the same, indicating it may have been copy and pasted by hand rather than generated). But my second guess it’s purely drawn work with a lot of manual editing. What I can say is this is very unlikely to be 100% AI.

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        inconsistent arm length

        Because it is impossible for humans to get anatomy wrong, or just not care. Right panel is a compromise: Gesture wants negative space to the right (gal is running), panel width is limited, don’t want to cut off hand, so make arms different length it’s a comic FFS.

        the distorted/melty flowers in the third panel

        Because everything humans paint is hyperrealistic and infinite detail. Impressionist technique doesn’t exist.

        the bottom of the TV stand

        …what? Best guess I have is that you think that it’s geometrically wrong but it just doesn’t have a door, drawers, or such. Which btw would break the composition.

        kinda melty/bendy lines here and there

        Smudge tool don’t exist.

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            Can you not see the image I posted in the comment?

            Yes and I can’t make heads or tails of what you want to say with it.

            The way the petals are drawn is not how a human would draw them.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgDYlmRwXF8

            What I’m hearing from you is vague gesturing, “don’t think I’m confused about that kind of stuff” and “trust me, bro”.

            “Not how humans would draw them” doesn’t cut it. Explain how it differs. Zooming in on those flowers “hah they don’t look like flowers” does not prove anything, of course they’re not perfect: They’re in the background. Too much detail would make them pop out, that’s why you draw the impression of detail, not actual detail. The artist in the video is a master at that.

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      this specific style has been proliferating the past few weeks. there’s some new model that’s really good at just two-tone comics. it’s immediately obvious when doing a side-by-side.

    • If you pay attention to her shirt, you can see diagonal folding lines on the clothes because presumably one of her shoulder is higher than the other. The artist made it consistent across three panels and it’s clearly a human’s intention.

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    TFW you file an extension ever year and do it the week of even though it doesn’t change the like 12 numbers and 6 strings to complete it