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AI garbage seemingly pays the bills…
Seems like it creates bills, but also has enough hype behind it to generate investment/donation interest.
Except right now you lose all of your open tabs if you close the browser with the “X” on pc or if you shut the computer down.
To make it save your open tabs right now, you have to click the … and then select “exit”.
When I click history in the menu after reopening firefox, I have an option to restore previous session.
I’ve clicked history to get some pages back, but haven’t noticed a restore previous session option. Great if it’s there, but still a large bug that’s been present for quite a while.
Can’t you restore them with Ctrl + shift + T or maybe Ctrl + shift + N ?
I think that’s an issue with your install, when I shut down my computer or press the x it restores tabs fine next time I open it.
If it’s with the install, it’s from a bad/corrupted update. FF has been on there for ages. Are you on windows 10? I’ve seen it’s a known issue because it’s findable if you Google it. Be a strange bit of a corrupt install, being that it’s the only issue and that it works as expected if you select “exit” instead of hitting the “X”. Regardless, if you’re also on 64bit win10 system and it works normally for you, I’ll do a clean install.
Yes this is also on a 64 bit windows 10 install, so in theory yours should be functioning the same. Good luck getting that sorted as if you are like me and frequently use the same tabs that does sound like a pain
Do you have “open previous windows and tabs” ticked in settings? I’m also on 64bit win10 without the issue you describe.
Yes. I’ve also tried un checking it, closing firefox, opening Firefox, re checking it, and it still only remembers my tabs if I “exit” Firefox instead of just hitting the X.
Since it’s not happening to everyone else with windows 10, I’m going to just do a clean instal and see if that fixes it.
Now, the team is experimenting with smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.
Off course, they found a way to integrate more Ai features.
Because you know it’s really hard naming your group yourself
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the inclusion of some small AI feature is what justified the rest of this work being done. As in, someone got approval for tab groups only because they were smart enough to describe it as “AI powered tab groups“. Just speculation
ffs. Of course they had to slap AI on top of it. Goddammit.
smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.
Yeah sure ok. Did the community ask for this too?
I don’t care about AI when it’s doing minor things like this it’s when they’re shoving it down our throats and we don’t want it.
AI as a tool? Hell yeah.
AI to replace people? Fuck no.
Real.
For one second I thought Mozilla might have made something that wasn’t anti-feature… But OF COURSE it’s going to need to have AI 😑
I had to enable them:
about:config->browser.tabs.groups.enabled->trueThank you for this. Now I know hire to turn them off.
But they’re off by default so I’m not sure what you’re talking about
Not on my browser they aren’t. They just started offering to make groups one day, and while I want to tear out someone’s tongue for it, it would require far too much effort, and might just be a bit of an overreaction.
So they’re reintroducing a feature in 2025 that they added to Firefox in 2010 and subsequently removed in 2013. Such progress. Much wow.
Please help me understand how to use tab groups and how to use bookmarks and why they are different things.
Tab groups are built for open tabs, bookmarks are built for revisiting things. Their use cases are quite different in my opinion.
Ok but when do you make the decision to invest in organizing open tabs into groups versus bookmarking them or just moving them to a dedicated window. When do you close the tab or tab group – only when the initiative is over? Do you “archive” those tabs as bookmarks?
And then there’s the profile variable
just moving them to a dedicated window.
That’s the key, it’s like having a separate window, but without the separate window.
At work I’ll open anywhere between 40 and 100 tabs at a time, but I want to keep them near my existing tabs and not in another window. I have an extension that opens them all in a new tab group. I typically work from the left edge of the group and close out of tabs as I get through them. I can still hop between my non grouped and grouped tabs without having to change windows. And if I want to pause it for a bit then I “minimize” the group like a window.
Why do you have to “get through them” in a specific order, though?
Because I have bees in my head that tell me to get through them in order
I don’t have to. It’s just easier to work left to right with the order of the tabs.
This is work work, not just dorking around at home.
This question is a highly personal one from my perspective. I haven’t used the groups yet but I often toggle between six or seven contexts throughout the day and I’ll give them a shot for that.
Profiles toggling just didn’t work for me as it was too … Slow for me as in I have to reorientate myself whenever I switched profiles.
I think you organize tabs into different containergroups based on groups and bookmarks
Most of what web browsers do is the same feature multiple times just presented differently
Yeah, thought the same with vertical tabs already. It’s extremely cool that it’s there now for folks who want it, but if you have a strategy for putting tabs into multiple windows and then dealing with those windows appropriately, then there’s really no point in making it a vertical list for the handful of tabs per window you’ll likely have…
I don’t know about groups specifically, but keeping a tab open retains its history, so you can go back (and forward) later.
instead of having 12984 tabs open, you can have 345 groups with only a few dozen tabs in each one.
I feel like this feature is a good idea that has come too late for me. I already “group” stuff via windows. That’ll be a hard habit to break.
I miss Panorama so much!
Was I signed up for some beta? I’ve had firefox groups for a few weeks now.
And holy shit do I need em.
“You asked, we built it” --> “People keep shitting on us for our terrible decisions… Quick let’s do something people actually want to compensate ! Wait let’s also slap AI on it, I’m sure everyone will love that” (Mozilla being Mozilla I guess…)
People love to hate on Mozilla without knowing shit. Some of it is literally 4Chan grade manipulation as well.
Like the whole ToS debacle. People just aren’t interested in truth just rage 24/7
I would much rather see Tree Style Tab be integrated.
I use sidebery, I find it even better
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Why not just using fucking bookmarks? What’s the point of all this “organization” when it’s ephemeral anyway? I don’t get it why most people are so allergic to bookmarks.
Bookmarks I use for pages I want to store for a longer time. Tab groups I can use for pages I have open at the moment, e.g. because I’m working on X and Y, so I group the tabs based on X or Y. But I don’t need to keep the tabs between sessions.
Scenario: working on two tickets and having some yt/spotify/whatsapp in background. I separate the tickets and tabs related to them in their own tab groups and the social media tabs in another group. I can easily navigate through them and have less mental overhead on where everything is, especially if I color code the groups.
I just open a second window for this.
Not something I’ll ever use, but cool regardless
I already used it three times accidentally while rearranging tabs. Mostly annoying, I haven’t used them yet
I got a Stroke reading that. You used it 3 times but haven’t used it?
The three times were all accidental. Didn’t use it with intention yet
How do you unuse a tab group?
Happened to me too, but I really liked it so far
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Isn’t profile management introduced like right now in the same release?
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Desktop only? Sigh…
