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 fossilesque   ( @fossilesque@mander.xyz ) M to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish ·
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Pictures of Animals Getting CT Scans Against their Will: A Thread

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Pictures of Animals Getting CT Scans Against their Will: A Thread

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  •  XPost3000   ( @XPost3000@lemmy.ml ) 
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    This feels like the equivalent of getting abducted by a superintelligent alien race, being put into a machine beyond your wildest comprehension, and then probably getting a treat and sent back home where nobody will believe you

    •  janus2   ( @janus2@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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      i got a CT scan once and am a dumbass so the doctors and technicians might as well have been a superintelligent race

      however instead of a treat i got a giant medical bill >:(

  •  Elvith Ma'for   ( @elvith@feddit.org ) 
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    My favorite is definitely that poor hedgehog, LOL

    •  Dr. Wesker   ( @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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      That one made me laugh as well. I never knew they had such… unflattering (yet flat!) bodies.

  •  Ledericas   ( @Ledericas@lemm.ee ) 
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    funny sad fact, if a person weigh 600 or more lbs, they sometimes have to use xrays/ct/mri in the zoos that are meant for larger animals.

    •  philpo   ( @philpo@feddit.org ) 
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      No shit, I once had the chance to accompany a patient to an large aninmal hospital for an MRI.

      The problem: It was so far away that the patient needed to be airlifted. Which was far beyond the capacity of regular HEMS. So they called in the military and they send a fucking CH-53 cargo helicopter. These things are huge and loud. But cool.

      That was one interesting ride. Somewhat embarrassing for the patient (who was not in on weight level due to simply eating too much - patient had a massive and life altering orphan hormonal disease) but patient kept somewhat good spirits and the volunteer fire brigade did a good job blocking the view.

      Nowadays human medicine has improved - you can now simply use an open MRI with specialised gurneys. They usually can take more than 400kg, sometimes 500kg.

      •  drosophila   ( @drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Does a larger MRI produce more data than a smaller one (same data density over a larger volume), or is it the same resolution spread out over a larger space?

        •  philpo   ( @philpo@feddit.org ) 
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          It depends. MRI and to an even larger extent CT scans are “targeted” to an area. People are very very rarely scanned “totally”.

          E.g. you want to look at the cervical spine and therefore only examine this area. While you will also see neighbouring regions these are not necessarily full resolution (only if they can have an impact). So if the imaging run is being done for an area that is not affected much by the fat tissue it won’t produce more data necessarily (a cardio MRI is a good example). If you do a abdominal or pelvis MRI/CT is normally does include all tissue and therefore will produce more data.

          (Take this with a grain of salt though, while I worked inhospital for a while I am primarily a paramedic and more into repairing vital signs than radiology. While we have mobile CTs nowadays they are brain only and not my area of expertise)

          There is an exception for the real complicated cases like the one I mentioned, though. As we didn’t want to do the whole transport effort 4 weeks later again because another speciality found another issue the patient was indeed scanned almost completely" (with breaks in-between as that gets uncomfortable fast).

          (Sadly enough the whole thing was done 6 weeks later again,indeed, as the patient had suffered from an acute stroke which later killed them. Sad story,really. Never had a chance in life)

    •  slappypantsgo   ( @slappypantsgo@lemm.ee ) 
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      Obviously we should have bigger radiology machines. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to have them where you have a substantial fat population.

  •  sp451   ( @sp451@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    Do we also get a thread of pictures of animals getting CT scans with their consent?

    •  fossilesque   ( @fossilesque@mander.xyz ) OPM
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      •  djsaskdja   ( @djsaskdja@reddthat.com ) 
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        Thanks for sharing. How does the fish one work? The dolphin I get because it breathes oxygen, but don’t all fish have gills? I feel like it should be in the water.

        •  ouRKaoS   ( @ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ) 
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          You’re supposed to hold your breath for a CT, so the fish is just fine for a bit.

        •  DoubleSpace   ( @DoubleSpace@lemm.ee ) 
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          Maybe the fish are dead, or not out of the water for too long.

      •  BluJay320   ( @BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Somehow I don’t think the fish consented to this…

      •  Juliee   ( @Juliee@lemm.ee ) 
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        We need higher res photo of Steven the fish

        •  fossilesque   ( @fossilesque@mander.xyz ) OPM
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          https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=683568597141353&id=100064646563264

  •  massive_bereavement   ( @massive_bereavement@fedia.io ) 
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    The hamster burritos got me good.

  •  peoplebeproblems   ( @peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ) 
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    Stopped asking those pesky questions now didn’t it?

    •  treadful   ( @treadful@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Stopped asking those pesky questions about what?!?

      •  BluJay320   ( @BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Grapes

      •  Akasazh   ( @Akasazh@feddit.nl ) 
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        https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/goose-chasing-guy

    •  MonkeMischief   ( @MonkeMischief@lemmy.today ) 
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      Peace is finally an option.

  •  isolatedscotch   ( @isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    tomorrow is monday again, folks

  •  Churbleyimyam   ( @Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee ) 
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    Why couldn’t that bird get a sleeping bag like the hamster did? Seems a bit drastic taping it down by the neck

    •  SirNuke   ( @sirnuke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      The bird is for a normal x-ray. Here’s the context.

      CT scans take much longer, but an x-ray is just a few seconds. I think it’s just a practical way to get the bird in place for a quick x-ray, and by practical I mean the vet techs minimize their (very real) risk of being murdered.

  •  bennypr0fane   ( @bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    I don’t think animals are ever okay getting CT scanned

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    Interesting.

    Did you take these pictures, or could you mention their source? I want to make sure the author(s) get credit.

    •  Hirom   ( @Hirom@beehaw.org ) 
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      Got no serious answer, so here are some results based on reverse image search:

      1. Rhinoceros. Credit: Chicago Zoological Society. Possible source: Black Rhinoceros Undergoes Portable CT Scan At Brookfield Zoo

      2. Bear. Credit: Kimberly Fornek / Pioneer Press. Possible source: Brookfield Zoo CT scan

      3. Humsters. Credit: unknown.

      4. Alligator. Credit: UF College of Veterinary Medicine. Possible source: Massive sick alligator given CT scan at University of Florida

      Feel free to add more in your replies if you have time to search.

      Dear, @fossilesque@mander.xyz please credit the authors and/or sources of the picture you’re posting. Those most likely aren’t public domain, meaning credit is required (and possibly more). Also citing the source provide interesting background on the pictures.

    •  74 183.84   ( @Tungsten5@lemm.ee ) 
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      The author is my mom

  •  medgremlin   ( @medgremlin@midwest.social ) 
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    The crossovers between veterinary medicine and pediatric medicine are a lot more significant than most people like to think about. The Venn diagram isn’t a perfect circle…but it’s close.

  •  SaharaMaleikuhm   ( @SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ) 
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    “Against their will” made me chuckle

  •  mexicancartel   ( @mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    The mice got a nice pillow

  •  Sunshine (she/her)   ( @Sunshine@lemmy.ca ) 
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    The only thing animals should be forced to do!

  •  Korhaka   ( @Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    How long does something need to stay still for a CT scan and can you send water through, just thinking about aquatic animals if you could just send the tank through.

    Looking at my axolotl who can happily sit there not moving for hours in the hope of ambushing prey, staying still should be easy enough.

    •  TonyTonyChopper   ( @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) 
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      Depends what imaging technique they’re using. X-ray CT might work ok with a little water in the way. Nuclear magnetic resonance might not be so good.

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