Lawmakers who support KOSA today are choosing to trust the current administration, and future administrations, to define what youth—and to some degree, all of us—should be allowed to read online.

KOSA will not make kids safer. It will make the internet more dangerous for anyone who relies on it to learn, connect, or speak freely. Lawmakers should reject it, and fast.

  • Libra00 ( Libra@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I dunno who it was who decided that legislation should parent their kids instead of them having to do it themselves, but if I ever find them I’m going to slap the shit out of them.

    • Not necessarily. I wouldnt be down for that, don’t get me wrong, but when there are dedicated “children’s account” options on a service, they should be legally exempt from algorithmic manipulation. Sure, without ID validation, that can be bypassed but that would be 100% on the parents. It’s not their fault they don’t know how these platforms push propaganda (of all sorts) on kids via algorithms, but it would be their fault if they didn’t ensure their kid was running on a kids account.

  • I fail to see how ensuring platforms don’t algorithmically push negative content on children, or how enforcing better default privacy options for children, is remotely a bad thing. As with most of what the Electronic Farce Foundation publishes today, this article was a word salad of excuses without reasoning.

    Also find it pretty ironic and hypocritical that there’s a sudden outcry against “censorship” but just a couple years ago, it was apparently a tHrEaT to oUr dEmOcRaCy if anybody expressed any sort of skepticism over the narrative because tRuSt the sCiEnCe.

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      Because that’s not what this is. It’s just like the porn site laws

      How does a site comply? Maybe they use AI to look at your face, maybe they have you send in your license. The law isn’t clear what’s enough to prove it.

      How long until third parties step up? Nice convenient orgs that can sell the collected data that can guarantee compliance, because they sell the data to the government directly. Or even first parties… Facebook and Google are happy to sell this kind of info on their users

      This isn’t about protecting kids, it’s about identifying users. What they say this is for is good, what the laws actually do is far removed from that

      • And I said elsewhere that I’m not okay with IDing users that way (though I’d absolutely love if we banned porn entirely). However, a lot of social media sites have specialized kids’ accounts. In cases like that, those accounts should be legally exempt from algorithm manipulation and given special privacy defaults.

        As far as I can tell, THAT is what this bill is doing.

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          That’s what they say it does. What it really does is make sites responsible for “harmful content” shown to minors

          It’s all completely vague. You say it just affects the kids mode accounts… The bill doesn’t say anything about that. It doesn’t provide any guidance on how to properly comply, just like the porn id laws.

          You can’t assume the government is going to use this for what they say they will. You have to look at what this would let them do as written

          Ultimately, this gives the government censorship powers over what is allowed in the “open” Internet, and to IDs users in the “adult” Internet

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              It’ll be a bit late then.

              I know how compliance works, and this is setting off all my alarm bells, and the EFF and privacy community agrees… This has truly horrifying implications

              If you’re going to let human rights be further erroded because it came in a pretty explanation, not much I can do. But when the next patriot act comes back to bite us, remember one thing… When they say it’s about the children, it never is

      • It does, and it sucks even more because that’s all the Fediverse is outside of a few rare instances. Love this tech but the echo chamber makes me feel like giving up on the Fediverse at least a few times per week.

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          Just know that plenty of ppl agree with you. We are just tired of constantly talking about it. If you find a good instance with free thinking, free speech loving, idea sharing people please let me know haha

          • For sure! I’m on a Mastodon instance called Retro Gaiden and while it’s not free speech (because political discussions are banned), the owner is really laid back and there is literally a rule, “no discussing your sexual orientation”. Basically, it’s designed to be a no drama instance about discussing retro culture. I wish there were more instances like that!