Reddit previously experimented with live audio chat rooms, but ultimately discontinued the feature.

Given Lemmy’s unique position as a federated, open-source alternative to Reddit, should the Lemmy project (or individual instances) consider developing a similar voice chat feature?

  • What potential benefits could voice chat bring to Lemmy communities, especially considering the platform’s focus on decentralized moderation and privacy?
  • How might voice chat align or conflict with Lemmy’s core values of decentralization, privacy, and user autonomy?
  • What technical and moderation challenges could arise from implementing real-time audio communication on a federated network, and how might these differ from centralized platforms like Reddit?
  • Should such a feature be standardized across all Lemmy instances, or left as an optional plugin for instance admins to enable or disable?
  • How could Lemmy’s open-source nature and ActivityPub federation protocol influence the design, adoption, and interoperability of a voice chat feature across the Fediverse.
  • Are there existing open-source projects or protocols that could be leveraged to add voice chat in a privacy-respecting, decentralized way?

I’m interested in hearing from both users and developers about whether this is a direction Lemmy should explore, and what considerations should guide such a decision.


https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/11o30v2/why_is_reddit_ending_audio_chats/

https://mashable.com/article/reddit-clubhouse-voice-chat

  • This is another great example of pidgeonholing a decent idea into the wrong tech. Lemmy is federated, but is meant to be an open messageboard style of communication. This would be better suited for an actual chat/audio protocol, like Matrix or XMPP.

  • 0xtero ( 0xtero@beehaw.org ) 
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    Short answer: No
    Long answer: Nooooooooooooooo

    Lemmy’s core values of decentralization, privacy, and user autonomy

    I’m sorry, but is privacy really one of Lemmy’s core values? Because fediverse has no real privacy features (that I know of), in fact, federation and ActivityPub makes privacy features pretty hard to implement. Could you please elaborate and link to the source of this?

  • I really don’t want to use voice chat when I’m talking to random people, I’m already not using any chat features. I’d rather use a different platform/software if it comes up at one point (e.g. for stuff like coordinating between mods); I generally prefer it when software keeps its scope small.

  • PattyP ( PattyP@lemm.ee ) 
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    Why would anyone want that? You mention “Lemmy’s core values of decentralization, privacy, and user autonomy”, but surely another “core value” is being a general use forum. One main benefit of a forum is that you can have discussions without necessarily having to have everyone together in the same place at the same time. Live voice chat is the opposite, so surely something like that would be better off as a feature of a platform that focuses more on live interaction.

    Moderation challenges would be absolutely immense of course, that is not in question. Moderating a voice chat is all but impossible in a setting where anyone can join without an invite, and accounts are free and easy to create.

    • 0xtero ( 0xtero@beehaw.org ) 
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      Also, you can’t easily/fast search in voice data and you end up implementing all kinds of weird and costly workarounds like AI transcription in order to make voice meetings searchable. Voice is great for telling stories around camp fire, but it’s awful way to convey and store information in a online forum.

  • CherryLips ( Skellysgirl@lemm.ee ) 
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    How could you see this utilised to add value? Would they be synchronous,like rooms of people just talking or would it be stacks of recording that you have to press play on?

  • Assuming this was a good idea, which is far from certain, how would ANY instance afford the bandwidth, hosting, and moderation costs to do this without corporate backing in the form of ads or worse?