Over the past few months, we’ve fallen short in communicating with you about certain issues that you have been flagging on the forum, such as the long wait times for customer support and the long overdue Android 14 update for the Fairphone 4. We’re truly sorry about that. It was never our intention to leave you in the dark, but rather, to wait till we had something solid to share. However, saying nothing is not the way to go. We want to make this right. So we’re sharing this update to explain wh...
I realize that I’m an asshole for telling them what to do but here’s what they need to do: They should drop all development of their own Android and put significant resources to making their next phone work with GrapheneOS.
they could probably just extend it with the bits that google requires for corporate approval, and release that as a fork, while still contributing to the development of base graphene os.
I mean they don’t need to use plain graphene, a partnership could make things easier for both parties by avoiding needless duplication of efforts.
I’d heard about it as a secure, pro privacy ROM but never used it since it’s not available on my current device. But after seeing their attitude on some forums, it honestly put me right off ever wanting to try Graphene OS.
they are already actively working with e/OS and iodéOS. Don’t know if e/OS already supports Android 15 like iodé does, but they could just focus on that next release…
I realize that I’m an asshole for telling them what to do but here’s what they need to do: They should drop all development of their own Android and put significant resources to making their next phone work with GrapheneOS.
That’d make them even more of a niche option than right now, since some apps (most notably banking) will just refuse to work.
On the contrary; many people want GrapheneOS but don’t want a Google phone.
Define most people
Lemmy isn’t exactly a great representation of the general populous
I said many
Many do, and many want something else. Personally the uncertainty around banking apps working is what keeps me away from GrapheneOS.
Well, mine work. I haven’t found a single app that doesn’t.
And, like I said, that’s a niche.
I’d love to use GrapheneOS myself, but unfortunately too many apps I need won’t work on it.
I haven’t found any apps that don’t work with the proper permissions enabled.
Do you use sandboxed google play? If not you must you mostly open source apps.
Yes I do but no, that’s not correct, most apps in Play Store work fine without Play Services.
they could probably just extend it with the bits that google requires for corporate approval, and release that as a fork, while still contributing to the development of base graphene os.
I mean they don’t need to use plain graphene, a partnership could make things easier for both parties by avoiding needless duplication of efforts.
What most people don’t seem to understand is that every Android phone is a Google phone unless you go through the degooglification.
I would (and did) just use Apple phones if it weren’t for GrapheneOS.
Most of them work fine. Typically don’t have to even enable compatibility mode.
Although Google’s new Play Integrity API is breaking more apps every day.
Banking apps generally speaking work, it’s the NFC payments via google pay that don’t and probably never will.
That problem with that is the Graphene devs
Probably better to make something for the general population. If nothing else maybe work with Calyx OS or /e/os
Agreed. Graphene is a fantastic product, but the devs are absolutely insufferable.
I’d heard about it as a secure, pro privacy ROM but never used it since it’s not available on my current device. But after seeing their attitude on some forums, it honestly put me right off ever wanting to try Graphene OS.
I’m glad it’s not just me
No, the hardware of Fairphones lacks certain security features.
Murena ships Fairphones with /e/os in the US
they are already actively working with e/OS and iodéOS. Don’t know if e/OS already supports Android 15 like iodé does, but they could just focus on that next release…
That would make their already very expensive phone even more expensive, if it were even possible at all.