A reminder folks: people engage in this kind of radical protest because it works:

Results of two online experiments conducted with diverse samples (N = 2,772), including a study of the animal rights movement and a preregistered study of the climate movement, show that the presence of a radical flank increases support for a moderate faction within the same movement. Further, it is the use of radical tactics, such as property destruction or violence, rather than a radical agenda, that drives this effect. Results indicate the effect owes to a contrast effect: Use of radical tactics by one flank led the more moderate faction to appear less radical, even though all characteristics of the moderate faction were held constant. This perception led participants to identify more with and, in turn, express greater support for the more moderate faction. These results suggest that activist groups that employ unpopular tactics can increase support for other groups within the same movement, pointing to a hidden way in which movement factions are complementary, despite pursuing divergent approaches to social change.

  • perestroika ( perestroika@slrpnk.net ) 
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    1 year ago

    I hope they get mild sentences because they didn’t even manage to enter.

    The law is extremely dumb, as it sends the message “accomplish maximum obstruction, as you will get massive sentences, don’t talk with anyone, don’t even consider getting caught”.

    Maybe next time, someone does like some alleged (claim unverified) anarchists in France. They burned a substation and cut down a high voltage pylon. Most likely a bit foolish because they didn’t stop the Cannes film festival from completing (it had backup power), but the point remains: they caused a massive pain in the ass for hundreds of thousands of people. If they get caught and get 10 years, they can say it was worth it.

    Dishing out 10 year sentences for attempting to stop a plane from using a taxiway by standing in front of it… is not very smart from a judicial viewpoint. People might do the math and find they’d get smaller sentences for considerably bigger deeds.

    • Didn’t know that they could get harsh sentences for an attempt…where do you draw the line for an “attempt”….Got on the runway with a pocketful of glue…A ladder on the fence…A conversation in the pub after 10 pints?

  • reksas ( reksas@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    Protests like this are not really worth it, especially if it leads to good people who care being imprisoned and thus not being able to affect anything at all because of that.

    Organise and find kindred souls to work with you and then resist smartly by taking care of not getting caught and doing things that can’t be ignored but which don’t alienate the public. Its pretty much crime already to do anything that might be noticed, as is evident by this. So don’t play by their rules. People like this who are actually willing to do something are way too valuable to be wasted in prison.

    There was a book called art of invisibility by Kevin D Mitnick which teaches how to stay safe regarding digital things. It should be free, but i’m not sure where you can find it beyond z-library. Its from 2017 so it might be outdated regarding how ai is likely going to be used for mass surveillance, but at least its good foundation for looking for more information about the subject.