Most of you said you’d switch to Proton Mail for the privacy, even if it meant giving up some of the convenience of Gmail.
Gmail’s only feature that made it compelling was an inbox of 1GB when everyone else was doing 20MB. Oh, and using Ajax to make it slightly more responsive.
None of the other stuff they added matters, especially if you’re using a mail client.
As someone who hosts their own email server and uses Gmail, I can tell you the biggest feature they offer that I have trouble replicating is labels.
Those in the know are probably familiar that labels are essentially special IMAP folders. The challenge I’ve had is making these folders work well, finding a mail client (both web based and app based) that works with it, and is easy to manage.
My last attempt to get this to work was setting up a DocumentDB database where the labels were metadata and they were then looked up by Courier IMAP. But it didn’t work well.
I’ve been looking into this problem for over 10 years and it kills me that this simple feature is important enough to keep my personal email in Google.
I do not perfectly manage my email inbox, and I’ve become absolutely dependent on their automatic Priority / Updates / Promotions etc. Classifications, as well as their features that surface important emails, or things you might want to respond to that you forgot…
I found their prioritization too biased against people to find it useful. I’ve turned it off as I’ve missed notifications from bots that I need to take action on.
To each their own I suppose.
Like Google is going to do that. The entire reason for gmails existence is to gather data from its users.
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honestly i believe the reason so many people are never gonna switch from google is because so many services allow you to use your google as an easy one click register/login. its so convenient that i have friends who’d rather have all their privacy be infringed than to give that up.
not to mention the dozens of services google provides themselves, from maps to mail to search to whatever the fuck
similar to apple, its an ecosystem. one of convenience.
It’s called the Googleverse.
Many people don’t know the difference between the Google search bar and the URL bar anymore.
Ultra Private E-Mail
look inside
The most basic ass unencrypted email
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If any of y’all could show me how to auto forward mail to a more private and secure mail hosting service I’d much appreciate it. I’m trying to de-Google my life and Gmail is the only one that feels far too embedded to drop
When I switched from Gmail to Mailbox.org, they had a migration to transfer all my existing data over.
From there, you can either set up gmail to forward emails to your new address.
Or you can use your new service to pull email from Gmail.
Either way is easy to do.
Congrats on wanting to make the switch!
Generally you can do it from settings with automatic forwarding feature.
See this article for actual instructions.
Consider that:
- this means google will know your new email address
- obviously google will keep accessing your data
For the first point, Proton migration tool (from gmail) works flawlessly and doesn’t disclose your new address (plus it moves all your previous emails). I didn’t try similar tools for other vendors but I am sure they have similar options.
For me it took months to get the bulk of the services moved over, I added a label to all emails forwarded and I periodically reviewed them. It’s a perfect occasion to change password or delete the account.
Proton literally does it as part of the signup process, you just log in and it does it for you
I send all of mine to a specific folder I can check later
Rocking postfix and dovecot with opendkim.
What features does Gmail even have to sacrifice? It’s just basic email.
Yeah, this isn’t really scientific or anything. The details of he survey aren’t really discussed in detail, and its not random sampling… Its readers of android authority.
That’s nearly equivalent of saying, the majority of people in this privacy group care more about privacy than google features.
I’d be interested to see a broad survey like this though to get a real sense of how the general publics views on privacy are changing.
Host your own email server, that’s the point of email
But in reality, email is a good example of why you shouldn’t use federated services
I’ll never understand why Facebook didn’t just offer opt-in privacy features to placate the small percentage of the population that care and make noise about these things. They’d likely still be a major hub and would’ve lost a small slice of a much bigger pie.
Does mark look like a smart person to you?
I mean yes he looks like a total nerd. Got into Harvard on merit and Microsoft had already tried to buy a company off him he started in high school.
But seems the success and everyone blowing smoke up his arse warped his perspective.
Because Opt-in is their kryptonite. They know very well that 99% of their users never change the default settings. They will fight tooth and nail against privacy by default because it’s against their business model.
Yeah that’s what I mean. Add privacy features but make them opt in.
Moving away from gmail is one thing, but Proton’s CEO is a massive cunt that I wouldn’t personally trust anymore. I have an ongoing subscription for some of their services (including email, but I don’t really use it), and I’m going to move on from there after the subscription expires.
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