I have kids. I unterstand everyone who wants a no kids holiday. Especially if you don’t have any.
So creating quiet places for relaxation is not allowed anymore? Because a child “shouts, laughs and moves” and that’s just how children are, no need to try and teach it to be quiet in certain spaces. But you are also not allowed to exclude them. These childfree places mostly exist because too many parents think children need to be loud and disruptiv everywhere they go and they can’t possibly teach them to be quiet for an hour or two.
This is actually a kinda solved problem.
Visit a casino resort. I did it once, looking for a hotel, didn’t realize it was a casino. But no children anywhere near.
Just quiet and calm atmosphere.
Wouldn’t this also include gay and/or nudist resorts? Are those a thing in France?
“The absence of children is a luxury, that’s why we’re making it illegal for regular people!”
Either it’s a luxury and I should be allowed to pay for it, or it’s as illegal as weed and it’s getting banned.
Problem with their stance is that most people with common sense will realise that bringing roudy children along is the real luxury. But it’s hard as Commissioner for Childhood in a country with low birth rates to tell people to do their damned parenting job.
The wording is bad. But here, we’re talking about banning the ban, ie. it’s the children who are banned. In principle, I don’t mind banning the ban, this feels like discrimination against the children and people with children. But I have children, so I’m biased that way. Of course, uncivilized behavior should not be tolerated, be it children or adults.
I’m aware of the wording.
Thing is, as the commissioner said themselves, kids are gonna make noise. And I’m perfectly fine with that, as part of their growing up. But peace & quiet is a fundamental right, that’s why I’m not allowed to play the drums at 3 AM. And sometimes, just for a week of two of holiday, I wouldn’t mind it all day long. In fact, I kinda need to zone out of the real world for a bit once in a while, and that’s a luxury I’m willing to pay for.
But you can’t call quiet environments a luxury and then ban providing it. Drinking alcohol is also a luxury. You can’t expect to do it everywhere, but you certainly can ban kids from entering an area where alcohol is expected to be served. And if you’re going to a theme park, don’t expect either luxury, because that’s a place where children are prioritised.
Only thing I’ld argue is that if you’re banning kids due to noise, you gotta ban all noise.
I don’t see the problem. We have women only places too.
WHERE ARE PEOPLE GOING TO FUCK.
Interesting. Culturally, France seems like the most child-hostile country in western Europe. I wonder if this is them trying to make children more acceptable in public. Good luck France! You’ll have to get over yourself first. Can’t take yourself too seriously when children are in the mix.
Thank god for low birth rates (and school days).
As if I needed more reasons not to go to France.
