• CileTheSane ( CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ) 
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      if someone says they are christian, they are.

      Then you can’t hold someone who says they are a Christian accountable for the actions of other people who say they are Christian. Nor does the descriptor “Christian” tell you anything about a person other than the fact that they say they are a Christian.

      Afterall, someone who believes there is no God, and that it’s fine to torture, rape, and kill anytime your feel like, is a Christian as long as they say they are.

  • Evkob (they/them) ( Evkob@lemmy.ca ) 
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    My brain is just now upon seeing this post processing why right-wingers always accuse the left of virtue signaling; as always with conservatives, it’s projection. They virtue signal by wearing crosses while definitely not giving a hoot about the teachings of Jesus.

    They can’t imagine someone sincerely supporting a cause they care about and assume we all only do it for recognition among our peers, because that’s the way they use causes. To signal to the in-group that we are one of them.

      • Evkob (they/them) ( Evkob@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Virtue signaling, political correctness, woke, they’ve used a bunch of terms over the years and I don’t doubt they’ll eventually move on from woke to another term they use to mock anyone with empathy.

    • Zink ( Zink@programming.dev ) 
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      This comment connects the dots so incredibly well compared with what I see from my angry conservative family.

      They can’t imagine someone sincerely supporting a cause they care about and assume we all only do it for recognition among our peers, because that’s the way they use causes. To signal to the in-group that we are one of them.

      Fuuuck, that is exactly the mindset I was raised to have, and which I very much had during my angry teenage years. Fortunately that was a long-ass time ago and in the decades since I’ve had everything from college to the internet to let me consider the thoughts and arguments of other less angry/hateful/bigoted/sociopathic people.

      • Evkob (they/them) ( Evkob@lemmy.ca ) 
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        My parents are pretty hippy-dippy granola types who have regularly volunteered for our local Green Party, so I’m obviously coming at this from a different perspective than you. I like to think I’d have ended up at the same conclusions I have even if I grew up with super conservative parents, but I’d probably be pretty different.

        So props to you for doing the hard work of detaching yourself from those mindsets. Of course, we all absorb some bullshit through society at large (heck I even remember, when I was just a kid, my dad making occasional “jokes” about how Indigenous people here in Canada “were lazy and got everything for free”. And my dad is rather progressive for his peer group).

        But I can only imagine it must be so much harder to detach yourself from that if your family is completely immersed into the kind of rhetoric the right has been pushing for years now.

  • plyth ( plyth@feddit.org ) 
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    It makes sense if she means to diss people with tattoos.

    She says “can turn” in comparison to “doesn’t”. That comparison is not balanced.

    I thought this was a quote.

    As an observation, it is literally right. There is ‘Christian’ as a path of spiriitual growth and ‘Christian’ as a gang. That golden cross is a gang symbol and works as such. Spiritually it would be wooden. Golden, it shows membership of the Christian gang.

    Tattoos work in the same way. Japanese know and treat them accordingly. At the very least tattoos of normal people make gang membership less despicable. If everybody marks themselves as non-normal, society changes.

    This is not an argument against tattoos. They are just more than a fashion symbol, while those can already be spiritually influential, as many women on diets can attest.

  • I’d say it’s a choice as to what the symbol communicates.

    A tattoo that is art or fun creative is awesome.

    A cross, be it tattoo or necklace… Just means you promote one of humanities biggest and oldest lies.

  • Aknight2015 ( Aknight2015@lemm.ee ) 
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    Gang tattoos do. If you have a, say, MS13 tattoo and you’re not a member, and a member sees that. You’re not going to like it. It’s a membership card. But I agree with the rest. It takes more than a cross to be a Christian. Faith without works is dead.