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Look people dying is never good but so far this issue has effected 0.00000000071% of the countries population.
Thats not how statistics work. If anything you would have to look at frequency of police custody deaths and check if this is an anomaly or a trend.
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Doesn’t Non-Indigenous encapsulate more than just “White people”…?
yeah
Cross-posting my rebuttal of this misleading stat:
It’s not just that.
Aboriginal people died at a rate of 0.13 per 100 prisoners, compared to a death rate of 0.21 per 100 prisoners for the total prison population.
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The same AIC report calculated that Indigenous people as a whole died in police custody at more than six times the rate of non-Indigenous people as a whole – 0.61 per 100,000 people, compared to 0.09 per 100,000 people.
As a prison population, they don’t die at a higher rate. As a whole peoples they do.
Who’s down voting this? How can people dislike hard objective data?
Cos it’s shit.
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Because your statement reads as “people dying isn’t good but this affects fuck all people”
That’s what my comment was. I was just confused about why some other guy who just dropped the facts and data was being downvoted.
Well it’s a discussion in bad taste. I don’t really know how to explain more because this should be obvious already why people wouldn’t like seeing it.
I can present a report on an extremely low LTIFR right after a workplace fatality and watch as I never get to present data in that room again.
Turning around and saying “but it’s factual!” isn’t going to get a “you’re right. Good job mate”
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So an article about something is fine. But some hard data related to the article that proves the articles core tenant is false is “in bad taste”. Is this cos u don’t like the the reality of the facts and prefer the false reality? U would rather push a false narrative because it aligns with your belies? Misinformation is OK when I agree with it?
Because his contexless stats is just 13/50 for indigenous Australians. I know it’s popular with American conservatives to say that black people deserve it, but we can do better.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/guebcy/comment/fsi6oql/
Indigenous deaths in custody: 25 years since the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody
Twenty-five years has passed since the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody (RCIADIC). This paper examines the trends and characteristics of Indigenous deaths in custody since 1991–92, using data obtained through the National Deaths in Custody Program (NDICP). NDICP data show Indigenous prisoners are now less likely than non-Indigenous prisoners to die in prison custody, largely due to a decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners from 1999–2000 to 2005–06. Coinciding with this decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners is a decrease in the hanging death rate of Indigenous prisoners. Monitoring trends and characteristics of both Indigenous and non-Indigenous deaths in custody supports the development of proactive strategies addressing this important issue.
https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/sb/sb17
Sorry but if Indigenous people are like a 3% of the total population and that table shows absolute numbers, you have the per capita calculation very wrong
My bad I’ll separate the comments because I wasn’t referring one to the other
I’m not trying to compare custody death rates between different groups I’m simply questioning the relevance of this article as a whole. I think its far more effective for us to be focusing on issue that effect most people before we worry about solving an issue that effects a fraction of a fraction of a percent.
I believe there is plenty of news about large issues. There is no lack of information that prevents humanity from doing better, its a lack of will to act and infinite greed. Reporting even more about the same issues that affect a lot of people wont change that in the slightest.
I think it absolutely will. The efforts of hank green and his team in regards to tuberculosis is a great example of how hammering the same point again and again can have significant effects.
And literally everything else in human history is a great example of why it doesnt work. Everyone knows about the Israeli genocide, nothing happens despite that. In the end getting the information out is an important baseline, but to actually do anything about those situations you need political power.
This issue does affect all of us, this person was in custody.
The authorities had an obligation to ensure the wellbeing of this person and they failed that duty, this needs to be investigated and protocols need to be put in place to prevent this happening again.
A friend of mine died years ago due to a loophole in a certain law, his family contacted their council member and the law was amended to prevent this type of accidental death across Australia.
For one guy, 1 out of 23 million at the the time and they passed a law. So I ask how is this different to you?
Least racist lemm.ee post 🤡
