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sabreW4K3 ( sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al )  to Australia@aussie.zoneEnglish · 1 year ago

Aboriginal community shaken by second death in Australian police custody

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Aboriginal community shaken by second death in Australian police custody

www.aljazeera.com

sabreW4K3 ( sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al )  to Australia@aussie.zoneEnglish · 1 year ago
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Kumanjayi White’s death at Alice Springs supermarket raises painful memories for Warlpiri community.
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      Doesn’t Non-Indigenous encapsulate more than just “White people”…?

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        yeah

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      Cross-posting my rebuttal of this misleading stat:


      It’s not just that.

      Aboriginal people died at a rate of 0.13 per 100 prisoners, compared to a death rate of 0.21 per 100 prisoners for the total prison population.

      […]

      The same AIC report calculated that Indigenous people as a whole died in police custody at more than six times the rate of non-Indigenous people as a whole – 0.61 per 100,000 people, compared to 0.09 per 100,000 people.

      As a prison population, they don’t die at a higher rate. As a whole peoples they do.

      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/09/the-facts-about-australias-rising-toll-of-indigenous-deaths-in-custody

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      Who’s down voting this? How can people dislike hard objective data?

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        Cos it’s shit.

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      • BlueSquid0741 ( BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        Because your statement reads as “people dying isn’t good but this affects fuck all people”

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          That’s what my comment was. I was just confused about why some other guy who just dropped the facts and data was being downvoted.

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            Because his contexless stats is just 13/50 for indigenous Australians. I know it’s popular with American conservatives to say that black people deserve it, but we can do better.

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            Well it’s a discussion in bad taste. I don’t really know how to explain more because this should be obvious already why people wouldn’t like seeing it.

            I can present a report on an extremely low LTIFR right after a workplace fatality and watch as I never get to present data in that room again.

            Turning around and saying “but it’s factual!” isn’t going to get a “you’re right. Good job mate”

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              So an article about something is fine. But some hard data related to the article that proves the articles core tenant is false is “in bad taste”. Is this cos u don’t like the the reality of the facts and prefer the false reality? U would rather push a false narrative because it aligns with your belies? Misinformation is OK when I agree with it?

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        https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/guebcy/comment/fsi6oql/

        Indigenous deaths in custody: 25 years since the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody

        Twenty-five years has passed since the Royal Commission into Aboriginal Deaths in Custody (RCIADIC). This paper examines the trends and characteristics of Indigenous deaths in custody since 1991–92, using data obtained through the National Deaths in Custody Program (NDICP). NDICP data show Indigenous prisoners are now less likely than non-Indigenous prisoners to die in prison custody, largely due to a decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners from 1999–2000 to 2005–06. Coinciding with this decrease in the death rate of Indigenous prisoners is a decrease in the hanging death rate of Indigenous prisoners. Monitoring trends and characteristics of both Indigenous and non-Indigenous deaths in custody supports the development of proactive strategies addressing this important issue.

        https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/sb/sb17

        Sorry but if Indigenous people are like a 3% of the total population and that table shows absolute numbers, you have the per capita calculation very wrong

        My bad I’ll separate the comments because I wasn’t referring one to the other

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