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sabreW4K3 ( sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al )  to Technology · 1 year ago

Discord CTO says he’s “constantly bringing up enshittification” during meetings

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Discord CTO says he’s “constantly bringing up enshittification” during meetings

arstechnica.com

sabreW4K3 ( sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al )  to Technology · 1 year ago
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  • webghost0101 ( webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    So does anyone know a proper alternative that doesn’t scare every non-tech person on my server?

    I already lost people when we initially moved from a facebook group to discord.

    I believe i can self-host a matrix client but no idea how well it will work with people currently having notifications by discord bot on their phone

    • ElectricWaterfall ( ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip ) 
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      There’s very little that doesn’t scare non tech people.

      • nesc ( nesc@lemmy.cafe ) 
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        According to tech people. 🙃

        • dwindling7373 ( dwindling7373@feddit.it ) 
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          Sadly, no. I managed to bring a friend on Signal after years, 3 monthes later they asked me if it’s ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it’s too bothersome to use two different apps.

          smh my head.

          • corsicanguppy ( corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 
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            3 [months] later they asked me if it’s ok if we talk on WhatsApp because it’s too bothersome to use two different apps.

            Hey, remember in the age of about 9 different messenger protocols, when Pidgin allowed you to message people on the platform they preferred without too much fuss?

            The “things we lost in the post-y2k culling of clue and mentorship” box is running out of space.

            • Captain Beyond ( beyond@linkage.ds8.zone ) 
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              Pidgin is still around, and you can even use discord with it (no voice, mind you).

              I would like to bring the multi-platform client back.

          • nesc ( nesc@lemmy.cafe ) 
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            That’s not because it’s scary or people can’t understand how to use it, it’s just bothersome.

        • kittenzrulz123 ( kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          No, people just don’t want to learn anything. They want everything to stay the same and never make compromises. No there is never a drop in one to one replacement for Discord or Windows or whatever else.

    • sabreW4K3 ( sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ) OP
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      Revolt is probably the closest fit https://revolt.chat/

      • Damage ( Damage@feddit.it ) 
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        poor name choice

        • nesc ( nesc@lemmy.cafe ) 
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          How is it better then discord?

          • Damage ( Damage@feddit.it ) 
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            Well, discording is better than revolting

      • corsicanguppy ( corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 
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        https://revolt.chat/

        Safe binaries we can validate with signed manifests, or just ISO27002-violating FlatSnappImage spooge?

    • disco ( disco@lemdro.id ) 
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      I heard Element just added screensharing

      • Ekky ( ekky@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        It’s still in beta and audio appears to not always work when streaming. Though, there’s recent activity on the related issues, so hopefully it gets out of beta before Discord alienates the regular user.

        I tested it a few days ago and besides the audio problem it appears to work very well.

      • pinball_wizard ( pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Element with Matrix.org is getting pretty decent.

    • MagicShel ( MagicShel@lemmy.zip ) 
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      I signed up with Matrix and it was not seamless but maybe a private server would be great and they could go from there (but that feels like a long term commitment to supporting those users). I haven’t really played much with it. Tried getting the folks in my discord server to give it a try but they haven’t and they are tech folks. I would say it’s not ready for normies, but I really wish it was.

      I still have it installed on my phone, but I don’t really have anywhere interesting to go. Same with Signal TBH—it’s installed but no one I know uses it. Still waiting on my invite from the Secretary of Defense.

      • corsicanguppy ( corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 
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        feels like a long term commitment

        says the guy who also says

        my discord server

        as if the two ideas aren’t the same.

        If you do it right, too, the private server is $0 in continuing labour.

    • Sina ( Sina@beehaw.org ) 
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      I believe i can self-host a matrix client but no idea how well it will work with people currently having notifications by discord bot on their phone

      In my opinion discord is not yet enshittified enough for these problems to be easily solved. Give it a couple more years, if matrix gains just a bit more traction, the scaffolding to do stuff like that will be worked out.

    • clang ( clang@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Keet is pretty cool and (granted I am a tech person) is pretty dead simple to use.

  • nesc ( nesc@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    It already is (and was long before any ads)

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    With discord already being pretty shitty, I am interested in what ideas they are coming up with.

  • CassiniWarden ( CassiniWarden@infosec.pub ) B
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    waiting for the day we’re all on IRC again…

    • death916 ( death916@lemmy.death916.xyz ) 
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      Never left

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    deleted by creator

    • /home/pineapplelover ( pineapplelover@lemm.ee ) 
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      You could use jitsi meet. Kinda similar to zoom though imo

      • WilfordGrimley ( WilfordGrimley@linux.community ) 
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        I think you can also use Jitsi as a plugin from within Matrix

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    I read the article, but nothing can convince me the discord execs aren’t purely thinking of how ways to further enshittify.

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