• morbidcactus ( morbidcactus@lemmy.ca ) 
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          Pretty much every person I know in Canada has an electric kettle and every single office I’ve worked in has one, my kitchen has 15a outlets which is still 1800W. I have a simple gooseneck kettle that I usw mainly for coffee, it’s only 1kW and holds around 750ml, it’s not blisteringly fast but it’s boiled before I’ve ground my coffee.

          The whole “120v is holding us back from having kettles” is way overblown (technology connections has a video on electric kettles).

          • barsoap ( barsoap@lemm.ee ) 
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            my kitchen has 15a outlets which is still 1800W

            1800W are not out of the ordinary for water cookers in Europe but that’s definitely on the weak side. 3000 to 3200 is usually the maximum, probably because pulling the full 3600W would drastically increase the chances of tripping a fuse. My food processor is 600W and I might want to make a coffee while kneading dough.

            • frezik ( frezik@midwest.social ) 
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              Have to drop the US number by 20% for continuous loads like a kettle would be.

              That said, US homes built in the last 40 years or so tend to have a lot of separate circuits in the kitchen. My house has one for the fridge, one for the disposal, one for the dishwasher, one for the lights that’s shared with lights in adjacent areas, stove has its own 240V outlet, and then one for all the other plugs. If I ran the microwave and a kettle and a mixer all at once, I’d probably still trip it, but that’s a lot of multitasking going on.

              • barsoap ( barsoap@lemm.ee ) 
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                If kettles were continuous loads we’d have to reduce from 16A to 10A (2200W) or 8A (1800W). Schuko are rated for as little as 1h of 16A but for a kettle that’s plenty, they’re done in a minute or two.

                German stoves are connected to at least 2x10A, newer installations (as in since the 70s or such) all provide 3x16A. Not actually three-phase they’re still 220V appliances. Whether the outlets, light etc. are on different phases differs widely.

        • JillyB ( JillyB@beehaw.org ) 
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          That’s not true and also it’s not the reason. We just don’t drink a lot of tea. There’s not a huge reason to own an electric kettle unless you’re drinking a lot of tea. It’s still much faster than a stovetop kettle.

      • Ricaz ( Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        In my country (and most of northern Europe I presume), induction stoves are becoming very common. I tossed my electric kettle 7 years ago when I got induction.

        It’s faster than a kettle in most of my pots.

      • Asafum ( Asafum@feddit.nl ) 
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        Tea isn’t that popular here although I’d argue in recent years it has been gaining on what it once was. I think where other countries kettles are the norm, here “coffee makers” are the norm.

        The majority of the more “popular” form of tea we’d have here is probably considered an abomination onto nuggin elsewhere: sweet tea. (Iced tea with about 628648lbs of sugar in it.)

    • DealBreaker ( DealBreaker@lemm.ee ) 
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      So, I’m Greek and I also have never used a kettle. In fact, you won’t find one in most households. But all of us have a briki. It’s like a mini pot!

      We use it to boil water/make cofee/tea/boil 1-2 eggs etc

      • john_lemmy ( john_lemmy@slrpnk.net ) 
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        I don’t get it either, I’ve always made tea with a small pot. It is just something to heat up water. It has a lid. The only time I started seeing a lot of kettles around was when pour over / V60 / Chemex became fashionable and every place started selling gooseneck kettles.

        • socsa ( socsa@piefed.social ) 
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          I don’t need the burner space most of the time, compared to the counter space. Plus, like I said, it looks better, so the aesthetics justify the cost. I agree the boil time is a problem, but it’s a small price to pay for clear counters. It’s starts with a kettle. Then you have a toaster, and an air fryer and a coffee grinder and a coffee machine and before you know it your house is 37% counter appliances by mass. The only option is to be an extremist.

    • ssfckdt ( ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      They’re getting more common. I personally used a stovetop kettle as recently as six years ago. But electric kettles are a world of difference.

      Minor problem for me is currently living in a very old house that we don’t own and using a proper electric kettle will pop a breaker. I recently bought a travel kettle that uses like 1/5 the wattage instead

  • HugeNerd ( HugeNerd@lemmy.ca ) Banned from community
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    I just write “IRANIAN NUCLEAR SCIENTIST HERE” on the cup, publish the pictures and location everywhere, don’t move it for years, and then Israel will heat it up instantly for free.

  • nublug ( nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    1 coffee mug/tea cup of water in the microwave for 1 minute is perfect for a single serving bag of tea. it doesn’t have to be boiling, just hot. 1 min is also not long enough to dangerously superheat water. hot is water is hot water, it doesn’t matter if you do it kettle or microwave.

    edit: lol

    • No. Just no. You get shit cups of tea from coffee houses because the espresso machine doesn’t dispense boiling water. The water needs to be boiling for black tea.

      Also how do you microwave water? It takes ages to get water to boil in there and can explode. Use a stove if you must, buy a kettle if you can.

      Also if you put a cup, teabag, and milk in the microwave at the same time I will find you, and I won’t just force you to make a good cup of tea I will force you to make a perfect cup of tea that will ressurect the Queen of bloody England!

      The culinary arts of my home country may be shit. But you fuckers make it worse by fucking up the most simple recipies!

  • ornery_chemist ( ornery_chemist@mander.xyz ) 
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    Something something typical US circuits can deliver less power than typical Euro circuits. Not a lot less though. Turns out it depends, but the power rating in the EU is in theory usually about 2x that of US circuits, assuming similar current draws.

    I used to own a $15 plastic electric kettle, but it died after a year or two. When I went to target to get a new (hopefully better) one, I realized I could instead buy a plug-in induction plate on sale for $50, and a plain stainless steel kettle that somehow cost only $1.50 (less than the shitty bread that I was also buying? how?). The induction plate was honestly one of the best purchases I’ve made in a long time. Sure, I have to wear earplugs to tolerate the high-pitched scream that the frequency driver makes, but it boils water just as well as an electric kettle and is also soooo much nicer to cook on than the resistive curlicue burners that came with my apartment.

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      Technology Connections did a video on this rule.

      regular US outlets are 120V. regular EU outlets are 240V. P=VI, so to produce the same amount of power as a 240V kettle, a 120V kettle needs to draw twice as much current.

      the gauge of a wire determines how much current it can carry without setting insulation on fire. home outlets are typically wired for 15A, around the world. so in EU, 15A service can deliver twice as much power since that’s 15A of current at 240V = 3.6kW, while in the US at 120V = 1.8kW.

      so EU kettles are twice as powerful, typically.

      • Hmm for some reason the numbers 1600 and 2000 W were rattling around my head for US and Europe respectively. I know most US appliances don’t like to pull the full 15 A because that’s when the breaker trips, but that would scale roughly the same for Europe so the power ratio should still be as you describe. I guess I either was misremembering or got the EU number from an abnormally low-current circuit.

        I forgot TC did a video on this. I’ll have to watch when I have the time.

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          Not the ones I was thinking of. Great, you found a cheap kettle at mediamarkt, good for you. Here’s a 1500W one, also not the one I was thinking of. I was thinking of one I once had. The one that’s the reason why my current one is 3000W and wide enough to not risk tipping over.

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            People who buy consumer electronics at Amazon from made up Chinese throwaway brands are beyond rescue.

            They don’t care if their products are unsafe because they will never face consequences.
            You can’t even be sure if the material is food grade.
            MediaMarkt does, because it’s their own brand and would damage their reputation and financial bottom line

            • barsoap ( barsoap@lemm.ee ) 
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              No argument from me there but when I bought that 1500W kettle Amazon was still a book shop. I’m not saying that 15 Euro were a good price but it’s what I think REWE (as in the supermarket, do they still use that brand for physical stores?) sold it to me for because I couldn’t be arsed to make a trek into the city to visit a proper appliance store.