How to say Marx was right without saying “Marx was right”.
Canada (and the world) will burn. You think migrants are a problem now? Wait until millions of people have no choice but to go north and the water wars start.
O damn, almost forgot about the water wars. Those were brutal. Before those people genuinely believed there was nothing bigger than a World War. The fools. Like if you’re still here in 2125.
The water wars will start far sooner than that
@asg101 I agree we’ve lost the opportunity and will have to “hunker down”. But hearing it from David Suzuki is…hard.
the focus on politics, economics, and law are all destined to fail because they are based around humans. They’re designed to guide humans, but we’ve left out the foundation of our existence, which is nature, clean air, pure water, rich soil, food, and sunlight. That’s the foundation of the way we live and, when we construct legal, economic and political systems, they have to be built around protecting those very things, but they’re not.
Powerful truth!
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Lol yup, trump also went all in on climate denial. Definitely fucked.
I gave up a long time ago. The last time we really did anything about an issue like this was lead in gasoline. 50+ years of knowing we had to change. I wonder if maybe the wealthy elites know whats coming. I wonder if this new rise in facism is partially an answer to the fact that there won’t be enough of anything to go around. That is why they want us having babies. for soliders. I hope they have some spark of humanity and let people self terminate but I bet you would need money for it.
Just wanted to add that maybe the last thing that we did for the environment and that really worked was for acid rain in 1991. At least where I live.
A few years before that there was the Montreal Protocol that banned CFCs and helped to heal the hole in the ozone layer. I think.
But yeah, I don’t remember anything of the sort recently,
Where I live people are replacing furnaces with heat pumps, if enough do it could make a minuscule effect.
Genuinely seen conspiracy theorists say “they removed lead paint to that they can control you with 5g”
If we still had lead gasoline, people would say you can pry it out of their cold dead hands
We do still have leaded petrol. All piston engined aircraft are still burning fuel with added lead.
What about ozone layer?
what possible reason could there be in self termination when there is a good fight to be fought (against the oppressors)
Has been for ages. It’s now question of how bad, and we are still making it worse.
Giving up is exactly where the “too late” come from, quitter shouldn’t be leading climate advocacy.
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If I had mansion money I would buy land to live in a self built mud hut.
Most everyone who’s even slightly well off in north America creates significantly more environmental damage than the average human
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And Trunp is bringing back coal too. Fucked doesn’t even describe it.
Thanks to big corporations effectively owning governments and big politicians the world over, things aren’t bound to get better anytime soon, because “the economy”. Fuck that shit
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So, how long do we have left?
No one knows, many humans and other species are already dying from climate change today. Get used to hearing the phrase “It is happening much faster than expected.” from now on.
Guess people better start updating their plans then. No point in starting a family and having kids when they’ll just die to climate change.
People are doing that. Fertility rates are way below replacement rates. Now billionaires are freaking out that their customer base and work force is shrinking.
And the solution is of course outlawing abortions, instead of keeping the planet in a habitable state.
Others have already tried banning abortions and it was a total failure, but ideology says it’s a great idea so there they go again.
I am way ahead of you.
I’m curious if we will hit a correctional point when most of life dies off and civilization can restart. I’m picturing some fallout/metro kind of shit where people need to love underground for centuries.
“Collapse is a process, not an event.” It’s very likely we’ll be extinct by the end of the century. There will be all manner of hell from now until then. Our population of over 8 billion is only possible because of a highly complex global web of systems. Complex systems are fragile. Once dominos start falling, people will start starving very quickly.
Its entirely possible that 99% of humanity dies but I don’t really buy into us going extinct. People have an inate drive to survive and even if things are genuinely horrible I don’t see them just giving up. Unless there is literally no food/potable water I think the planet is stuck with some form of humanity until the planet is uninhabitable. Remember there are still dinosaurs around today, they just look different.
This guy says climate change mitigation will be a blip on the radar of economic growth:
Hooooly shit, that man is a sociopath. It’s no wonder we’re barrelling into 5°C with people like him driving the world’s economy.
He’s done the classic trader thing:
- Classify everything based on its financial value
- Ignore the real-world implications of things that don’t fit his models
- Take it as a given that markets will always behave the same way regardless of point 2.
This guy has no fucking clue about human beings and does not give a single shit about human beings. His opinion can be safely discarded
The typical Lemming will be poorer but fine, unless it triggers other human disasters like a nuclear exchange. The lower classes of Bangladesh, less so, and 95%+ of coral reefs are fucked.
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My mom is a pile of ashes in an urn. Doubt she could do anything to sea levels.
I didn’t know 13 year olds used Lemmy.
All that’s left is to make the rich suffer.
“The Earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses.”
~Utah Phillips
Inb4 some pedant quibbles that “the planet itself is not dying.” Yeah, but we and our fellow creatures are. It should be understood that is what Mr. Phillips meant.
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David Suzuki sucks. Seen him at restaurants here in town before. Treats waitresses like shit.
