The overall message here I think is: action is still necessary, but the reality is that we’re too caught up in politics and economics and we missed our chance at mitigation. Now we need to look to how to cope with what’s coming.
I understand why he’s despairing and frustrated after so many years of effort, but I hope his framing doesn’t quell people’s efforts. It’s definitely too late to stop climate change from happening, but we can still effect how bad it gets, so please don’t give up.
I don’t have kids and I just don’t care anymore. We fucked the planet and humans will never escape it before it collapses us as a species. Fuck em and fuck it. I just gotta make it like 30 more years.
Doomerism isn’t the answer. You may not have kids, but other people still will, and they’ll have to live through the world we leave them. Instead of giving up and saying fuck it, use your anger, hope, love, whatever you need to fuel you, and do what you can. Plant trees to create shade you will not be under, find ways to minimize your energy usage, get to know your community, talk to them, prepare together.
It’s far more fulfilling than waiting out your death in despair, so even if you think it’s all useless, you’ll have a much better time of it either way.
Oh I’m not in despair, eat drink and be merry for tomorrow you may die.
We should stoke anger. Hope made us blind and we sleepwalked into warming.
It’s too late for justice. Now only revenge remains
No we can’t. Nothing is going to stop the profits.
Yes we can. Doomerism only guarantees our failure. Collective action still matters, it still has an effect.
Capitalism will bring us to ruin if allowed to continue, and we will indeed need to have a reckoning with it, or perish. If you want that reckoning to be tried, then join in your local communities, organize, unionize your job, help your friends and family unionize theirs, and prepare together.
At least then we’ll have a chance.
Do the IPCC, representing the scientific consensus, agree?
I will not forget who brought us here, though.
That’s a long list, but I agree.
“Because if we can’t protect the Earth, you can be damned well sure we’ll avenge it.”
Tragedy of the commons is a tragedy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons#Climate_change
I wonder how much big oil paid him to say that
Probably nothing since it’s pretty fucking obvious.
It’s only beginning.
We had like a hundred years to mitigate this, and we didn’t. Had to run out of time at some point.
We can’t stop the sun from growing so anything we do here on earth is ultimately meaningless.
Eventually there will be a heat death of the universe, so that technically makes all existence ‘meaningless’ if you consider an ending to make everything before it meaningless.
Before then though, there will be a lot of existing going on for living beings, who fill their lives with meaning and joy and connection while they remain alive, and we’d rather like it if our environment wasn’t a complete garbage fire while doing so.
Technically, we can. We probably will be able to do that a few hundred years from now and a few hundred years is nothing to something like the sun
If only you put your bottles in the other container that will be burnt on a beach in Turkey, we’d be all right
