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geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml )  to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

AOC voted against MTG’s amendment to strip Israel funding from the Defense Appropriations Act of 2026

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AOC voted against MTG’s amendment to strip Israel funding from the Defense Appropriations Act of 2026

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geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml )  to United States | News & Politics@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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  • AlHouthi4President ( AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml ) 
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  • JustEnoughDucks ( JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ) 
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    I wonder if there were bad hidden things in the bill again? (I know most of the US congress is bought by AIPAC)

    Like in the US, a bill often gets to congress that is named something like “the children are the future protections act” that provides free meals and better education for kids or something universally good, and then clause 7.1.2.5 says “all people of color are stripped of all rights and Lockheed Martin gets an extra 200 billion per year and a on-demand hit squad provided by the CIA and is immune to prosecution, and the police have the right to spy on every citizen and steal their wallets without a warrant.”

    Because the majority of members of US congress have admitted to not actually reading the bills.

    • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      There was nothing bad in the amendement itself.

      This was not a vote on the whole bill. It was a vote to change a part of the bill and strip out funding for some free weapons to Israel. It was voted on seperately.

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      It could also just be that it’s MTG’s bill and she’s introducing it because she’s explicitly antisemitic. It’s like if a well-known white supremacist introduced articles of impeachment for Clarence Thomas because they can’t stand having a black man on the court. Maybe if this is the one shot that can get it done you bite the bullet and do it because the result is worthwhile even if you’re going to get asked why you teamed up with the white supremacist, but for a doomed bill that’s only going to be a statement of principles, the benefit is limited and the person who introduced it is part of the statement.

      • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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        So she’s a Republican?

        • Zaktor ( Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          I don’t know what point you’re trying to make here.

          • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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            If the personality of the person intruducing an amendement matters then AOC would never vote with any Republican, right?

            • Zaktor ( Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ) 
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              MTG’s problematic aspect isn’t her being a Republican. It’s not even that she’s a particularly bad person (she is). The perceived motivation for this messaging bill is antisemitism. This is Jewish space lasers lady.

              • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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                So? Her bill is about cutting off money for weapons to Israel not Jewish space lasers.

                4 real progressives voted yes.

                • Zaktor ( Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ) 
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                  I suppose you could pretend that context and pretext simply don’t exist. Poll taxes were just about raising money and English only laws are about government standardization.

                  I’m also not of the opinion that the people voting for it made a heinous choice either. They were just willing to take questions about MTG’s antisemitism in exchange for a minor messaging vote. Nothing anyone did here is important. AOC has put out statements much more critical of Israel than being vote 7 on a muddled messaging bill.

  • crankyrebel ( crankyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    AOC is career politician (insert add for term limits here) and as such she is tries to walk the middle line, carefully selecting her words and never goes far enough on her stance on certain issues that might get her in trouble, like her meandering support about Gaza and Israel. She is not the progressive darling we need, just the best the DNC has, and at times, that isn’t saying much. We need a viable working class, progressive party that isn’t afraid to fight.

    She is an outspoken surrogate for President Biden, a figure many fellow socialists have condemned as a warmonger. She has also carefully calibrated her messaging around the war in Gaza, declining to take some positions that have inflamed Jewish Americans.

    Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel

  • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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    Update: AOC clarifies she supports genocide and it is not about MTG

    https://lemmy.ml/post/33383345?scrollToComments=true

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    • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      What is BS in the title?

      • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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        The cherry picked nature of only mentioning AOC. 428 other representatives did the same thing, which is the real story.

        • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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          https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/aoc-is-a-genocidal-con-artist

          People who say you should criticize AOC less because there are way worse members of congress act like she’s just passively sitting there being a mediocre lawmaker. She’s not. She’s actively anchoring the leftmost edge of the Overton window of US politics to militarism, capitalism, colonialism, and genocide. She’s actively stopping American politics from moving any further left than the nightmare we see before us.

          Leftists shouldn’t hate AOC less than the politicians to her right, they should hate her much more. It isn’t Mike Johnson’s responsibility to move the US government to the left, and it’s not Nancy Pelosi’s job. It’s hers. That’s what she was elected to do. That’s what she framed the goals of her entire political career as being. And she’s taking her stand firmly bracing against any leftward movement from America’s genocidal, warmongering, unjust, exploitative, tyrannical status quo.

          • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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            I mean, yeah, I don’t disagree, but surely its more important for this specific article to note that there are only 6 representatives in the house who care about reducing the money going to Israel?

            • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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              We all know the establishment is corrupt.

              The progressives are the ones supposed to not be voting with the establishment.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic ( UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Wouldn’t it be boring if every news article had the same headline?

      “Everybody Sucks Here. Again.”

  • nullpotential ( nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Magic The Gathering?

    • Not_mikey ( Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Marjorie taylor greene

    • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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      Every time I read it as that.

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    I’m pretty sure a large contingent of her constituency is New York Jews, many of whom are probably Orthodox… It’s not a stretch to believe that many of those voters are also Zionists

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      Zohran Mamdani has destroyed that argument already.

      • NauticalNoodle ( NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ) 
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        What impact does Zohran Mamdani realistically have over weapons sent to Israel?

        • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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          You mean his full boycott on Israel until it follows international law which goes far beyond a simple weapons emargo?

          • NauticalNoodle ( NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ) 
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            Are these policy plans of his?

            • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) OP
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              Yes.

              • NauticalNoodle ( NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ) 
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                Well, then I stand corrected.

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