The survey by the Centre for Social Investment Studies (CENSIS) showed 39% of Italians aged between 18 and 45 would declare themselves as pacifist conscientious objectors, 19% would try to evade conscription another way, and 26% would prefer Italy to hire foreign mercenaries.
I’d rather migrate to another country than to risk my life and the ones I love for a pointless war driven by maniac idiots.
Me too. But sometimes I am also wondering what then. Sooner or later the maniac idiots will come to the other country as well and maybe it’s better to fight them before they get even stronger.
Maybe. But for a foreseeable lifetime this wouldn’t be my problem and not worth risking my life. Life is way too precious to throw it away so easily by becoming a cog in the war machine.
Does that include your country being invaded? Does “a pointless war driven by maniac idiots” include defense from invasion?
Yes.
What’s that? You don’t want to throw yourselves into a meatgrinder to protect the private property rights of your fellow rich nationals?
In all likelyhood the adversary isn’t taking my apartment. It’s taking the factories I don’t own. Maybe working conditions would be worse afterwards. Maybe they’d better. Gotta check who’s invading.
Gotta check who’s invading.
a line to remember
Most likely countries to invade are far right authoritarian. Though IDK where you live, if you’re in like Russia or Iran there’s merit to the idea that conditions might improve. If you’re in any of the classic “western” countries, no way, though - even the USA has better working conditions than Russia.
Likely. The joke about the bird in cow shit applies though. Not everyone who shits on you means you harm and not everyone who pulls you out of the shit means you good.
The article doesn’t talk about any specific kind of war, does it?
For example, if I look at Gaza or Ukraine, I can’t see it as “damage to rich private property rights”.
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I always thought Italy is full of nationalists
You see, Italians hate their country, but at the same time think it’s the best country (right until they need to do some bureaucracy, then it’s the worst).
So they nationalisticaly defend it with words against other countries, but they wouldn’t actually put skin in the game.
Source: you can see my instance ends with .it
Why does working in IT give you insight into Italy?
If you aren’t sarcastic, .it is Italy national domain (short for Italy, ofc)
This would explain it, thanks for the insight
Which age are they?
Because a lot of people love war and nationalist bullshit, when it is other people doing the fighting for them
Well, then they’s better send weapons to Ukraine
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Instance Name checks out.
I wouldn’t really call “trying to evade being oppressed by Russia” fighting for us interests.
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Quick! Tell me what’s your opinion on the Russian annexiation of Chechnya or I’m going to shit and piss your pants.
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I somehow doubt you would do any direct action, much less murder of working class enemies. But if you do, well that’s good, what other direct action do you participate in? I donate to my local food-not-bombs, when I can afford to.
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Only 16% of Italians would fight for their country, survey shows
does that include women?
Can we get that down to 0% world-wide? Pretty please?
Nobody will attack the EU anyway. Next one.
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