• LoveCanada ( LoveCanada@lemmy.ca ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    78
    ·
    1 year ago

    He’s such a pervert.

    Says he’d date his daughter if she wasnt his daughter

    Marries a woman who does soft porn shoots

    Rapes a child and then the case ‘disappears’

    Gets charged for sexual assault and then slanders the woman who won the case. Ordered to pay her over 80 million in damages which of course he wont

    Sexually assaulted a woman who was trying out for the Apprentice

    Says ‘you can grab them by the pussy’

    His first wife accused him of rape during their divorce proceedings

    TWENTY FIVE women have publicly accused him of sexual assault. One or two could be a conspiracy but 25?!!

    This perverted asshole should be behind bars NOT pretending to be king of America.

      • Well might be ok with you, but I think the average woman has more respect for herself than doing porn shoots and I certainly wouldn’t date someone who didn’t have a higher standard than that. All those girls doing Only Fans are finding out the hard way that it comes back to bite you in the long run.

        • Sex work is real work. It takes no less respect for oneself to do sex work than it does to do any other work. The only reason it “comes back to bite” people is because society still stigmatises sex workers.

          • And WHY does society stigmatize sex workers? Because its degrading to women, its manipulative, and its generally used by men who USE people for their own gratification which is completely disrespectful. NO women (or man) ever grew up as a child thinking “I sure hope I can be a sex worker some day” because its a job of last resort.

              • LoveCanada ( LoveCanada@lemmy.ca ) 
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Are sewer workers USED (and often abused) by other people for their own pleasure when they do their work? Completely different scenario.

                The only people who think sex work is fine are those who dont do it and havent talked in depth to someone who has. I spent five years on the street making friends with girls and boys who did it to survive. There is NOTHING good about it. NOTHING. Its degrading, its soul crushing. Its VERY often accompanied by physical or psychological abuse which is why sex workers kept ‘bad date’ lists to warn other workers of the really creepy guys. Its a horrible way to make money but they did it because they didnt have any other way to survive. Next time you have rose colored glasses on about sex work, give me a call and Ill put you in touch with a 12 yr old girl who was pimped out by her 16 yr old sister and you can have a long discussion about the joys of sex work. Or with a 16 yr old boy who ran away from home and ended up getting sodomized by a man in a park because he needed 40 bucks to get a meal. Its really glamorous stuff, everyone loves it.

                • And you think these issues are limited to sex work? You don’t think office workers are used and abused by c-suite?

                  I have friends who do sex work, but you’re free to lecture me all you like since you’re the expert, allegedly.

                  Part of the massive issues in sex work is to do with poor rights and protections for sex workers, because it is stigmatised and not seen as real work. Obviously trafficking and child abuse are unacceptable but they are not inherent to the job, they are an issue in the same way child labour is in many other fields. There are simply more protections in place in other fields to prevent it from happening as much.

                • Has it ever occured to you that those abuses happen because of people’s attempts to delegitimize it? Despite attempts to make it illegal or to otherwise shame those who participate in it, it hasn’t ceased to exist for as long as humanity has existed. Prohibition didn’t make people stop drinking alcohol, it just created more crime and unsafe scenarios. Drug use being illegal doesn’t stop overdose. The fentanyl crisis is a direct result of drugs only being available from non-legitimate sources. Onlyfans has created a very safe space for sex work. It’s not perfect but it is leaps and bounds better than an alternative where it is illegal.

                  I believe your experience that everyone you met on the streets found it to be degrading. Have you ever thought that was because of the environment that you were in? Sex work performed by homeless people usually only exists because no legal alternative exists for their clients. Also it becomes a last resort for income for desperate people and as a result can put them in not safe scenarios.

                  As far as it being degrading, that’s also attributed to the unsafe conditions that many women and men are forced to work under. It really isn’t hard to find sex workers who are proud of their life style and live happy lives due to their success in the industry. Unfortunately they are in the minority because of all of my previous points listed. Most of the negatives that you talk about are a direct result of your and others shaming, not anything that is inherently wrong or immoral with sex work itself.

          • Really. So the only reason that sex workers hide what they do is ONLY because they will be stigmatized by others? But they are inherently happy with selling their bodies to lusty men for money cause that makes them feel fulfilled and legitimate and empowered?

            Huh. Thats kinda preposterous.

            NO ONE is happy with being a sex worker because they have to do mental gymnastics to pretend that its not degrading and soul crushing work. And NO ONE stays in sex work long term because it’ll kill your self esteem after awhile. Even OnlyFans, who say they feel safer online, get disgusted with trying to please gross men online because it never ends and always degrades to worse acts til they’ve had enough of being treated like a piece of meat. Selling your soul for a dollar. Its not legitimate work in any way, you can only pretend that it is for so long and then reality sets in.

            • I would argue just that. Its acting and there’s a demand for that job so yeah. And its definitely not easy that anyone can do it. Plus it takes preparation and they do known each other and have to pass their STD check.

              • Real “acting” doesnt involve exposing yourself to someone for money and then doing the most intimate thing two people can do so that ONE person can gratify themself and the other can be used. Ive talked to a sex worker who was 18 and she grew up being abused by her father and her uncle. Her comment was, “people are going to fuck me anyway, I may as well get paid for it” Does that sound like someone who is happy to be in sex work? Or just an victim of abuse who has given up on trying to protect herself.

              • tiny_iota ( tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org ) 
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                sleep with this fat old ugly man who will possibly beat you or kill you or impregnate you or do deranged sadistic things to you-- or work in this assembly line making iphones! Gee what a equivalent choice! So the same!

                • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Sex work done right people get to say no and it’s safe. Meanwhile people who have to lift heavy stuff all day every day have their knees destroyed by 30. Yeah, not the same at all. One you destroy your body selling yourself to the company.

                  Yes, sex work done wrong can be harmful and dangerous, but the same is true for all work. People used to lose limbs constantly working in factories because protections weren’t forced on them. We recognized they were being abused by the system and passed laws to protect the workers. We need the same thing for sex work. Since it doesn’t exist in the US, yeah it’s normally pretty bad for people. Porn stars seem to be fine (though they’re often around people who abuse drugs and they can get into that, especially since most start young, but this can happen anywhere). Prostitutes are doing illegal work though and are scared to go to the police usually. They’re also frequently not doing it totally on their own and may not have the ability to say no. That has to change. People likd you saying that it’s bad, wrong, whatever ensure it doesn’t change to become safe.

    • I am not sure what to highlight from there, but there’s a lot of info here: https://medium.com/@mistagrinch/an-unsettling-pattern-a-comprehensive-look-at-trumps-sexual-controversies-and-underworld-a876887ecd85

      There’s also sources, which might be worth checking. There’s at least one unconfirmed thing from some Washington post draft that was later removed from the final article.
      The only response about it seems fo be “We (or the Washington Post Writers Group, our affiliated syndicate) edit every column to try to make it as good as it can be. We don’t think it would be fair to our writers to discuss the editing process, and don’t see what is to be gained by talking about things that are not published — there are countless drafts that never see the light of day.”

  • pedz ( pedz@lemmy.ca ) 
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    Am I reading the date correctly? This is from 2016, right? Not that the current outrage is not justified, but it took a while to get there.