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RmDebArc_5 ( RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip )  to Emulation@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

Duckstation(one of the most popular PS1 Emulators) dev plans on eventually dropping Linux support due to Linux users, especially Arch Linux users.

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Duckstation(one of the most popular PS1 Emulators) dev plans on eventually dropping Linux support due to Linux users, especially Arch Linux users.

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RmDebArc_5 ( RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip )  to Emulation@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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cross-posted from: https://reddthat.com/post/46825035

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  • LiveLM ( LiveLM@lemmy.zip ) 
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    This comment by woelkchen on the original thread adds some context worth reading imo.

    • Arthur Besse ( cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ) 
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      This developer appears to have accepted contributions from over 100 other people prior to having a change of heart about the GPL and unilaterally switching the project to a non-free license (CC Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives).

      Somehow I doubt that all of the other contributors actually agreed to that license change 🤔

      Bonus 🤡-points for making a bunch of unrelated changes to source code in the “Misc: Update copyright headers” commit.

      edit: i stand corrected, thanks to @LiveLM@lemmy.zip i see the developer wrote:

      I have the approval of prior contributors, and if I did somehow miss you, then please advise me so I can rewrite that code. I didn’t spend several weekends rewriting various parts for no reason.

      It’s odd they didn’t mention that in the commit where they changed the license.

      🥂 to whoever carries on development of the last GPL version, and/or develops other free software emulators. and 🤌 to people continuing to contribute to this one after it became non-free.

      • LiveLM ( LiveLM@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Somehow I doubt that all of the other contributors actually agreed to that license change 🤔

        It seems he did in fact get their permission, and rewrote code he couldn’t relicense

    • onlooker ( onlooker@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Much appreciated. The author’s comment for that commit does not paint the full picture.

  • Omega (she/her) ( purplerabbit@beehaw.org ) 
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    This is yet another example of someone being exhausted by the free and open source software community and specifically the Linux part of that community. At one point, we’re gonna need to take a long look at our communities and wonder why the fuck is it that this keeps happening? The amount of shit that maintainers have to deal with constantly is a massive issue. We have a cultural problem, one that we seemingly refuse to acknowledge.

    Recently, a project called Kapitano got abandoned for pretty much the same reasons. Some kernel maintainers left. There was the whole Asahi Linux debacle. With Asahi Lina, notably, basically quitting Linux development altogether from what I understand at this point.

    We keep seeing burnouts, people giving up in frustration, getting harassed and so on. This is not okay. How many times does it need to happen before we finally decide that enough is enough?

    • optissima (she/her) ( optissima@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Those other examples are not the same situation. People can be exhausted of many things and isn’t really conducive to identifying the problem. Can you describe the culture in a way that doesn’t boil down to a larger societal problem? The differences I do see is that there is, unlike with private software, a place here to communicate with developers directly, that there is much less of a buffer between devs and users (no company) so that they receive the direct blunt of the messages, and lack of management (devs likely wont be as skilled managing public interactions as someone whose profession it is). For this, Linux users are more savvy and more able to file issues, so it makes sense that they received many more issues.

      I think this is survivorship bias due to transparency. There are endless people that quit jobs like Asahi did due to internal bureaucracy that you would never hear from, because who elses email chains are public and the product is for all people instead of a demographic?

  • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) Banned from community
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    Surprised to hear that with the popularity of Retroarch on the Steam Deck

    • RmDebArc_5 ( RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip ) OP
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      AFAIK retroarch uses swanstation, a hard fork specifically for retroarch created in 2024 when duckstation switched from GPL to a source available license. Also retroarch alternatively has the beetle core which is also a pretty good ps1 emulator

      • James R Kirk ( Kirk@startrek.website ) Banned from community
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        Did not realize swanstation was not the same as Duckstation! In my experience Beetle is good for accuracy but does not run well on lower end systems.

      • procapra ( procapra@lemmy.ml ) 
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        So then, really, swanstation is better anyway.

        • RmDebArc_5 ( RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip ) OP
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          Well, swanstation doesn’t work standalone and some people have said it performs worse, but it’s not like you need a very powerful system anyway

      • NuXCOM_90Percent ( NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ) 
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  • circuitfarmer ( circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    2% market share

    Overall maybe (although even then, I think it is somewhat higher than that), but I’d bet money that usage is higher among people who emulate. The Steam Deck is a big part of that.

    • IngeniousRocks (They/She)  ( ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Overall it’s actually huge, significantly more than unix or NT based systems.

      Desktop share alone is up to 5% this month in the US. Mobile phone share is over 60%, server share over 80%, supercomputer share is 100% of the 500 most powerful.

  • Venia Silente ( veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    They use Arch btw!

    • harrys_balzac ( harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      I think Arch would be more popular if more people stated that they use it. Every chance they get. I’m sure that wouldn’t be annoying.

  • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) 
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    He has a point. Package managers are extremely stupid. Installing stuff on Linux is stupid. We need a 15th standard. Or one making all the existing ones work together.

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