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Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com )  to WomensStuff@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 year ago

How much is nature how much nurture?

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How much is nature how much nurture?

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Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com )  to WomensStuff@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 year ago
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  • tgirlschierke ( tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    On men being natural leaders, I’ve read that the stereotype of “men as hunters” is somewhat ahistorical when it came to actual hunter-gatherer societies. So it makes me wonder, when exactly did that idea come about?

    • tgirlschierke ( tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      The answer is usually around the Industrial Revolution, but I feel like this was way earlier.

      • Malgas ( Malgas@beehaw.org ) 
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        It’s kind of crazy how much baseline pop history can be traced back to “some Victorian dude made it up”.

    • Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com ) OP
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      That’s really interesting

  • klemptor ( klemptor@startrek.website ) 
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    Personally I think this is wayyyyy more nurture than nature. And I also think most people are not purely a leader or purely submissive - I think we all have aspects of both.

  • Balerion ( Balerion@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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    I’m literally a domme, so my very existence proves all those alpha male dudebros wrong about women being ~naturally submissive~. Not that they care about evidence.

  • Cait ( Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Sometimes I really wonder just how much both get pushed into these specific roles, like for example when boys are given toy soldiers and girls are given baby dolls. Its kinda scary just how early this starts

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      • klemptor ( klemptor@startrek.website ) 
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        I agree but Barbies could still enforce traditional gender roles. My Barbie had a washer and dryer, ironing board, vacuum, and a fridge. Other accessories existed too but these are the ones I was given. It would’ve been nice if my Barbie had scrubs, a briefcase, a basketball & hoop, paints and an easel, a bike or kayak… anything other than just housework to do!

  • pixeltree ( pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Some people are naturally submissive, I just don’t think it has anything to do with sex.

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