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Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com )  to WomensStuff@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 year ago

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Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com )  to WomensStuff@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 year ago
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  • ValiantDust ( ValiantDust@feddit.org ) 
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    Stephenie Meyer.

    Hear me out. Were the books well written? No. Did they describe very toxic and harmful relationship dynamics? Yes. Did they contain weird morals? Also yes.

    These are all things that can be justly criticised. And there is probably a lot more to criticise. But did Stephanie Meyer, and to some extent her readers, really deserve the huge wave of hate they got? Were the books really objectively worse than other YA fiction? Or was it just because they were popular among young women?

    I was a teenager when the books came out and loved them. (Though even then I did not understand why they needed to marry so young and she lost me with the whole Renesmee thing). Now I cringe hard about almost any aspect of them, but hate is going a bit overboard.

    And at least Meyer (to my knowledge) didn’t try to push her weird worldviews onto us outside of her book, unlike JKR.

    • yeahiknow3 ( yeahiknow3@lemmings.world ) 
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      Moreover, Meyer matured as an author. Her book The Chemist is a genuinely excellent genre-bending espionage romance thriller, which her fans hated because it wasn’t about vampire porn.

    • Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com ) OP
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      I totally see your point with Meyer

    • yuri ( yuri@pawb.social ) 
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      i’ll die on the hill that the twilight series is closer to outsider art than it is to pure schlock. if you consider her background (married young, super mormon), the story starts to read a lot more like escapist fantasy rather than “just teenage romance”.

      and don’t even get me STARTED on alice. re-read like ANY alice parts of those books and tell me that smeyer isn’t a little bit gay.

      hard agree on the toxic and harmful relationship dynamics tho 😬

  • razorcandy ( razorcandy@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    • MystValkyrie ( MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Totally agree. I’m so checked out of celebrity gossip that I only recognized Amber Heard’s controversy, only vaguely, and only because people kept asking me about it, to which I’d respond, “Oh, I don’t know.”

      “Anne Hathaway? Oh, I remember Les Mis. She did that whole song in one take.”

  • Of the Air (cele/celes) ( oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Agree 100%

    • Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com ) OP
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      Britney in particular, the poor woman was large scale humiliated for breaking down after years of abuse and media pressure. Then her freedom was taken from her

      • klemptor ( klemptor@startrek.website ) 
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        It was so shameful and predatory the way she was forced to remain under conservatorship and continue performing, all so her dad could make a fuckton of money off of her.

      • Of the Air (cele/celes) ( oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Yeah, it’s truly terrible. ☹️

  • tgirlschierke ( tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    i don’t follow celebrities closely enough to know about all of these controversies, but seems fair

  • ZDL ( ZDL@lazysoci.al ) 
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    I recognize, like , three names and only really know anything about one of them (Diana).

    My thoughts?

    Unless any of them is responsible for literally thousands of deaths or the physical misery of millions, none of them deserve hate.

    • db0 ( db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Counterpoint: J. K. Rowling

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        She’s best handled by simply ignoring her instead of giving her the attention she and her press agents love her getting.

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          Victims of transphobia and relevant legislation can’t just ignore the person with the clout to promote transphobia to politicians and her massive audience.

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