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A_Chilean_Cyborg ( A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl )  to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 1 year ago

It's on your blood!

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It's on your blood!

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A_Chilean_Cyborg ( A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl )  to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 1 year ago
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    Teflon itself is quite good, getting it to stick to places is the problem.

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      Quite good, if you avoid the fact it’s literally everywhere including the atmosphere, doesn’t break down, and causes cancer. But who cares about such little things like cancer causing rain…

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        Teflon itself is inert, but it’s also not needed to avoid that food sticks in a pan. In a good prepared Steel pan food sticks less than in a Teflon pan and is way more resistant to damages. The food sticks in the pan, if you don’t wait to add the food until it’s heated enough, not for other reasons, mistake often don by normal users. Professional cooks never use Teflon pans.

        Preparing a Steel pan non-stick

        • Clean the pan after buy it
        • Heat the pan on the kitchen
        • Add some oil and heat somewhat more until it smoke
        • After this, wait until i’s cold enough and distribute and eliminate the oil film over the whole surface with an kitchen paper.
        • Done

        After this, to fry something, add a little oil and wait until the oil has enough heat (test with the handle of a wood spoon, if it forms little bubbles on it in the oil, the temperature is OK), to add the food. It will never stick this way.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXEt-fhyCis

        • Shareni ( Shareni@programming.dev ) 
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          Teflon itself is inert

          About that

          our findings suggest that PTFE-MPs-associated toxicity may be specifically linked to the activation of the ERK pathway, which ultimately induces oxidative stress and inflammation.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37419366/

          Steel/iron > teflon for sure though.

      • Tja ( Tja@programming.dev ) 
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        Teflon doesn’t cause cancer.

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          It’s releasing a high amount of micro and nano plastics, and those are linked to different health issues including cancer.

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969724027232

          our findings suggest that PTFE-MPs-associated toxicity may be specifically linked to the activation of the ERK pathway, which ultimately induces oxidative stress and inflammation.

          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37419366/

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            Oxidative stress and inflammation is cancer?

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              At least 40% of human cancers are associated with aberrant ERK pathway activity (ERKp).

              https://www.nature.com/articles/s41698-024-00554-5

              ERK expression is critical for development and their hyperactivation plays a major role in cancer development and progression.

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7027163/

              Prolonged oxidative stress contributes to cancer initiation and progression through several biological mechanisms.

              https://biologyinsights.com/oxidative-stress-and-cancer-whats-the-connection/

              Oxidative stress, characterized by the production of reactive oxygen species (ROS) within cells, plays a critical role in the development of cancer by affecting genomic stability and signaling pathways within the cellular microenvironment.

              https://biosignaling.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12964-023-01398-5

              Inflammation predisposes to the development of cancer and promotes all stages of tumorigenesis.

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6831096/

              • Tja ( Tja@programming.dev ) 
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                So as much as breathing, coffee and the sun cause cancer?

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                  breathing, coffee and the sun

                  One of these is not like the others 👀

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          Modern teflon, sure.

          But there’s a reason its no longer made with PFOA.

          Studies have looked at cancer rates in people living near or working in PFOA-related chemical plants. Some of these studies have suggested an increased risk of testicular cancer and kidney cancer with increased PFOA exposure. Studies have also suggested a possible link to thyroid cancer, but the increases in risk have been small and could have been due to chance. - Source

      • A_Chilean_Cyborg ( A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl ) OP
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        Teflon, on it’s own is safe, the problem are the chemicals used to produce it.

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          Read the rest of my comments…

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      In the same way Asbestos is a great material, just one small problem

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        Asbestos itself is toxic. Teflon is inert.

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        Asbestos makes for a great cigarette filter material, though.

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          It is certainly… impactful for your lungs.

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        We are too weak for the miracle of asbestos.

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