• Scotty ( Scotty@scribe.disroot.org ) 
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    If you read the stats and you come up with such an (edited) title, it is clear that OP has an agenda. This is not about information or instigating a discussion because they are interesting in something, it’s just to spread someone’s propaganda.

    • Babalugats ( Babalugats@feddit.uk ) OP
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      What are you talking about, an agenda? I presented the link and the graph and gave the post a title as to what stood out the most to me.

      I didn’t include the UK because I thought that the UK had still been in the EU in 2021 (I misremembered that Brexit was November 2021 and not 2020) - Regardless, UK is in Europe. Israel is not, and never has been to my knowledge.

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          As an european I don’t want my name associated with genocidal regime, especially when those regime develop surveillance technologies and drones that one day might be used on civilians population here.

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                I replied to this comment:

                Regardless, UK is in Europe. Israel is not, and never has been to my knowledge.

                So unjustifiable in terms of “look, there is this non-European country that gets money from this European fund.”. That’s simply not the case, as this “European fund” is also funded by non-European countries (for exampe Israel).

                If you want all Israeli science projects, startups and companies currently partaking in the EIC to be expelled due to the actions of the Israeli government, that’s totally fine by me. But as said, this can and should be done in a direct and honest approach instead of creating the scandalising and false sentiment that a non-European country is somehow unjustifiably being fed European money here.

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        @Babalugats@feddit.uk

        An important detail that others have already said is that the EU collaborates with a lot of non-EU and also with non-European countries. Here is a list of the EU’s Science and Technology Agreements with non-EU countries.

        It has also been said that these countries must contribute financially for the projects they apply, another point that is important in this context that you didn’t mention.

        What ‘stood out most’ to you and the way you represented it is a detail out of context that ends up in an article reflecting a completely distorted reality.

        • Babalugats ( Babalugats@feddit.uk ) OP
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          An important detail that others have already said is that the EU collaborates with a lot of non-EU and also with non-European countries. Here is a list of the EU’s Science and Technology Agreements with non-EU countries.

          A more important detail is that Europe is collaborating with a Genocidal regime here.

          It has also been said that these countries must contribute financially for the projects they apply, another point that is important in this context that you didn’t mention.

          It has also been said that many of the Israeli projects have ended up helping Israel to commit genocide.

          What ‘stood out most’ to you and the way you represented it is a detail out of context that ends up in an article reflecting a completely distorted reality.

          What stood out most is that Israel is committing genocide and undoubtedly benefiting from these funds. As a European, I am disgusted that there is any involvement in such a way, but i am glad that it is public as it allows people to make up their own minds and see things as they are. Similarly it shows that these instances seem to have started heading the same way as sub forums with like named topics went.