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jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network )  to RPGMemes @ttrpg.network · 1 year ago

Because of some comments I got under my last post…

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jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network )  to RPGMemes @ttrpg.network · 1 year ago
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  • Jeeve65 ( Jeeve65@ttrpg.network ) 
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    If you look up the definition for an Object, it specifies that it is “a nonliving, distinct thing” — such as a corpse.

    However, the definition of Creature does not say it must be living. So, a corpse is both a creature and an object.

    There are even creatures that have never been living — such as constructs — and thus are also objects.

    • jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network ) OP
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      I think nonliving creatures may be more specific versions of objects then, since I couldn’t find any reference of creatures not being considered objects (because who would even say that, it should be obvious if you use your brain), but it also means that if a spell or ability only allows you to target or create objects and has no specification in regards to creatures, undead and constructs are valid targets by RAW.

      • Doc_Crankenstein ( Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net ) 
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        undead and constructs are valid targets by RAW.

        I mean, if you follow the logic, undead are “animated corpses” and constructs are “animated objects”, sooo… Sure, the “Rule of Cool” wins my vote on this.

        • jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network ) OP
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          Yes. That’s the point. But you don’t need rule of cool for this. You just need to use at least a single braincell to apply RAI.

          • Doc_Crankenstein ( Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net ) 
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            Gonna disagree, rule of cool is the deciding factor between the RAI vs RAW interpretations.

            I wouldn’t say it’s RAI, spells or abilities meant for inanimate objects typically don’t include undead under colloquial interpretations but it is definitely RAW using very technical interpretations.

            • jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network ) OP
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              Yes. And RAI means „rules as intended“. The technical interpretation of those words seems very much unintended.

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    There is some gray area as to when a corpse is a corpse or just mostly dead. They aren’t an object until they are all dead.

    • jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network ) OP
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      I know it’s a joke, but I’d say “mostly dead” is just when you roll death saves.

      • Kichae ( Kichae@lemmy.ca ) 
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        That’s dying. Bleeding out. It’s not even necessarily truly unconscious (even if it is Unconscious).

  • twice_hatch ( twice_hatch@midwest.social ) 
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    I touch myself

    • jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network ) OP
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      Whatever floats your boat man.

    • tgirlschierke ( tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      oh so that’s what elves do in the other 4 hours of the long rest

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    deleted by creator

    • jounniy ( jounniy@ttrpg.network ) OP
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      I mean… since the spell does not say that undead are excluded from revivification, you could very well just do that if you get your hands on the ghost in time.

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