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along_the_road ( along_the_road@beehaw.org )  to Technology · 11 months ago

Meta denies torrenting porn to train AI, says downloads were for “personal use”

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Meta denies torrenting porn to train AI, says downloads were for “personal use”

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along_the_road ( along_the_road@beehaw.org )  to Technology · 11 months ago
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Meta says lawsuit claiming it pirated porn to train AI makes no sense.
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  • Jack ( JustJack23@slrpnk.net ) 
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    “we didn’t download any porn, and the one we downloaded was for personal use”

    This is fucking ridiculous…

  • Annoyed_🦀  ( psx_crab@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Hey i thought corpos saying torrent is equal to stealing

    • TranquilTurbulence ( TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Not if you torrent for professional use.

  • ook ( ook@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    • yetAnotherUser ( yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Torrenting for commercial use is probably worse, legally speaking.

      • katy ✨ ( cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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        i personally download movies for commercial use personally

        • kureta ( kureta@lemmy.ml ) 
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          I pay myself 10 dollars everytime I watch a pirated movie.

  • fonix232 ( fonix232@fedia.io ) 
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    No, your honour, we did not use the porn downloaded to train our AI, at least not directly.

    The people working on training the AI? Oh, the definitely had a cheeky wank here and there after a stressful day! This just shows how committed Meta is to the wellbeing of our employees.

  • Jul ( irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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    I mean probably true, but that shouldn’t stop them from being liable if ordinary individuals are liable for the same actions. Sure, punish your employees, but if a parent is responsible to pay for a child’s pirating then an employer should be just as responsible for paying for an employee’s pirating.

  • Banzai51 ( Banzai51@midwest.social ) 
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    Meta is training sexbots, isn’t it?

  • InevitableList ( InevitableList@beehaw.org ) 
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    Is meta the one that downloaded all the books from anna’s archive?

  • floquant ( floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    What’s their angle? US companies can seemingly get a pass on copyright infringement if it’s for training AI. Why say that?

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    As has been made very clear, it is not actually possible to prevent these models from regurgitating any information they’ve been trained on, no matter how fancy the system prompt. So, if there is NSFW content In the training data, users will always be able to access it, not matter how “compliant” the company is with restrictions on NSWF content by way of system prompts.

    They can have their cake and eat it to, many users will prefer the models because of their ability to do porn stuff, and they will not be held legally liable for that since they’ve done everything they possible could.

    So long as no one proves that they did in fact intentionally train the models on a shit ton of porn …

  • Kwakigra ( Kwakigra@beehaw.org ) 
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    That is quite a headline. I just got on but that’s already enough internet for today.

  • Crotaro ( Crotaro@beehaw.org ) 
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    Unfortunately the main accusation - that Meta systematically downloaded porn to use for AI training data - might actually be false if they aren’t lying about only having downloaded around 22 vids per year. Seems way too little data for a training set to me. Nonetheless they shouldn’t get away with downloading files they didn’t have permission for.

  • Dequei ( Dequei@piefed.social ) 
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    403 Forbidden, yes

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