I love you ffmpeg
Ffmpeg has been such cool software to learn. Simple filter chains can do incredible things
I am using this comment to trick my lemmy client into going to the community, sorry
Could be worse, at least Google isn’t opening tickets as high priority asking basic questions on how to use ffmpeg.
Unlike the Microsoft teams devs: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/10341 Really funny to go “this is a high priority ticket” as if they’ve paid to use ffmpeg in teams.
Jesus christ lmao
I would have replied with ‘high priority for whom?’ or ‘high priority enough to pay?’
I looked up this Zied Aouina lad and his posts on LinkedIn are…😨
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FFmpeg has every right to ask this. Google can’t expect to extract free labour from the community.
Greedy tech should pay. No question about it.
They should either get GPL’d or forced to pay.
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Source: trust me bro
Middle managers don’t get to pocket any of the unspent budget. That’s crazy talk.
Surely Google has the resources to fix the bugs themselves. Most FOSS projects probably appreciate code contributions more than money.
this would probably just lead to the corporation taking more and more of a role until they take over development of the FOSS projects they care about, which is a particular nightmare I would prefer to avoid
was upset enough when Microsoft bought Github
What are you on about? It’s Google, they’re not gonna just close-source android more and more with every release or something…
Oh…
That was an incredibly interesting read, and I learned a lot! Thank you for posting it!
It’s genuinely infuriating that so much labor is simply stolen, in so many different ways, from people with a passion for what they do, and turned into profit for some mega corp, with the vast majority funneled to a few people completely unrelated to
theany work.Anyone who doesn’t work for themselves is getting their labor stolen, and that includes me. The name for this type of systemic crime is “capitalism.”
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“Allow me to interject and explain the four liberties…” (Or, goto fsfe.org/freesoftware )
If I understand correctly the biggest issue for FFMPEG and other projects is not only the Google and Microsoft that use them without giving back, but their chosen License. They gave permission to corporations to do this. One of the potential ways to fix this situation, is to change the license. For example from LGPL to AGPL. And then they can sell the legalese package of allowing them to break their license. The biggest difficulty is that, as a project, they’d need consent from every past and future contributors. So, yeah. I get it. This is a mess.
It would be way more easier if more corporations donated to open source projects… There’s too much labour that’s invisible
“The position of the FFmpeg X account is that somehow disclosing vulnerabilities is a bad thing. Google provides more assistance to open source software projects than almost any other organization, and these debates are more likely to drive away potential sponsors than to attract them.”
Yeah slave, stop complaining get your ass back to work because I’m about to dump more obligatory work on your lap that you will fix for no pay, I don’t care you have a family to feed!
Your complaining about not having any sponsor for the free work that we sell for millions of dollars may cause that you don’t get any sponsors!
The entitlement and mental gymnastics here at display is insane
Google has made billions off of open source software they got and used for free. Sure, they gave back a few fractions of a penny for each million they made with it, they gave back with adding some softwares here and there when it strategically suited them, but the simple fact is that without open source software, Google wouldn’t exist today, definitely not the way they do now.
Hell, the internet wouldn’t exist as it does today, it would be a tiny fraction of what it is today without open source software. Open source software is amazing yet most people in the world don’t even know that it exists, that it’s a concept, and that people are doing this
Yet there are countless companies profiting majorly from the work of others without giving back a dime. There are multinationals that profit in the billions from open source software without giving back properly or at all.
We need an updated GPL amendment or something that requires companies to start giving back productively in some form or another once they start majorly profiting from the work of open source projects.
Has anyone read the article? I barely understand what the fuss is actually about, the text is meandering and repeats semi-relevant details (specifically the part about libxml2).
In a nutshell:
Google is spending a shitload of money to find bugs in FOSS projects, but then refuses to spend the fraction more it would cost to contribute an actual fix, rather than just a bug report.
Basically, they are willing a spend a ton on finding a bunch of work for FOSS developers to do, but not on actually getting any of it done.
Not just that the bug they reported only affects some obscure LucasArt codec which isn’t even included in the build by default. Plus I’m pretty sure Google heavily uses ffmpeg for YouTube.
Plus google doesn’t really care if the obscure LucasArt codec is actually fixed, they’re raising the bugs publicly to sell their AI. This is marketing, not security. The more bugs it finds the better, since sales doesn’t care about the quality of the bugs found.
To add to the other replies: This is what AI is for. Not to replace labor, but to enhance the ruling class’ ability to exploit labor.
As a convenient side effect: If you use AI to spam people with bug reports, you’re basically DDoSing them… unless they then decide to use AI to help triage the avalanche. And wouldn’t you know it, Google just happens to sell AI to help you solve this problem they made for you!
“Nice FOSS project you got there. It’d be a shame if something happened to it.”
And also also: If FOSS in general turns into a ghost town… where are you gonna turn to get that boilerplate code you need to do a common task? That’s right, AI baby! All roads lead to boiling the Great Lakes so Nvidia can pay itself back.
Even if the license allow to use it commercially I don’t think this is allow to abuse it when the only brake restricting you from donating is capitalism. These companies worth more than 3T, and they are thinking long to donate to their fondations…
But what will our llms do?!
They are welcome to fix the bugs themselves and make it public. Valve have done a fair bit of that with making windows games run on Linux IIRC.
They could even use their LLMs to fix the bugs, and everyone else can reject the shitty bugs it creates.
Exactly my thoughts, give the devs access to your wonderful LLM’s and a decent server to help fix the issue. Google kinda behaving like an entitled first day Stack user.
Next weeks headline
FFmpeg to Google: Please stop submitting these shitty LLM created pull requests
