It’s okay, if Reddit is what “has users” looks like, then I’m perfectly happy to have “no users” over here on the Fediverse.
It would still be nice to have more than one active poster on topics as general as
You’re not wrong. I think we need to start de-specializing some in compensation on the Fediverse. Like maybe there’s not enough content to specifically support a !television community at the scale you’d like, but maybe there’s enough content if we rolled them together into !entertainment or !media.
But also, no community happens out of a vacuum. If we want a viable community here, sometimes that means putting in the work of regularly contributing posts knowing fully well they’ll be ignored and receive no engagement until doing so has proven enough continual activity that people feel worthwhile investing into.
But yes, in general I agree, it would be nice if we had a little more activity around here. But I’d still rather us be on the smaller size than the too large to manage size of Reddit, given the option.
You’re not wrong. I think we need to start de-specializing some in compensation on the Fediverse. Like maybe there’s not enough content to specifically support a !television community at the scale you’d like, but maybe there’s enough content if we rolled them together into !entertainment or !media.
When I originally set up television on lemm.ee I made it the largest community on the instance within 2 months lol.
It works on its own
I think we need to start de-specializing some in compensation on the Fediverse. Like maybe there’s not enough content to specifically support a !television community at the scale you’d like, but maybe there’s enough content if we rolled them together into !entertainment or !media.
This is a valid concern for other communities, but interestingly enough in the case of two two, there are enough posts and comments to still keep them separate, the issue is that most of the posts come from a single poster on each topic.
If we want a viable community here, sometimes that means putting in the work of regularly contributing posts knowing fully well they’ll be ignored and receive no engagement until doing so has proven enough continual activity that people feel worthwhile investing into.
Indeed, look at the weekly posts on !fedigrow@lemmy.zip
Even some of reddit biggest comms like games, still have one primary user posting
Interesting, I never noticed
Ye, it’s underestimated how many communities are reliant to one passionate enthusiast.
yeah also the r/MarsSociety community for example. mostly one user posting all the news article, though maybe 5-10 people actively commenting.
That’s true, but I am not interested in any of those. I’m mostly fine with the topics here, and I’m happy that the idiots of Reddit stay on Reddit.
Exactly. Assholes like that can stay on Reddit and suck more spez corporate bot cock.
I think it’s more just that most of the users are bots or marketing interns.
People are so stubborn that they’re still using Twitter lol. It’ll be many years before anything overtakes Reddit, I just hope it’s decentralized
I don’t need anything to overtake Reddit. We don’t need one platform to rule them all. I like our small corner of the internet. I like it to grow slow and organically. And it’s already decentralized.
I like it too, but it would be nice to have more than one active poster on topics as general as
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To be fair, I’m the main sustaining poster of television@piefed.social and I hate superhero stuff.
Superhero movie kids aren’t on Reddit, they’re on Instagram or Tiktok
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This is what they mean when they say no active users. Effectively, there are no active users. (And yes, the problem would be solved with more active users but for anyone who makes the plunge, they come to a fairly barren alternative.)
You open !asklemmy@lemmy.world and find random threads by all types of people, on all types of topics
Absolutely, there are some communities that have some users.
But in anything, even not so niche, its a ghost town. Half of Canada just watched baseball playoffs and even in the final round, the game threads had maybe 3 people.
I don’t think denying the reality of a new user’s experience is helpful. It’s a frustrating and solveable reality (much like our economic problems) but approaching them clear eyes seems the best approach.
You’re talking to someone who’s active on !football@sopuli.xyz , the most popular game on the planet, and where nobody really discussed the Euro final, one of the most prestigious tournaments worldwide.
Everybody is aware that there are topics where we miss people. I say it several times in this thread were people say they are happy with our current population.
I’m not, which is why the community we’re in exists, its sole purpose is to get more people here.
All of that being said, it’s still an unfair assessment to say that there are no users. It’s frustrating, and that’s why I posted it here.
To each their own! I think, especially to someone on reddit, we effectively count as no active users. I don’t expect people to be literal especially when they are talking about the user experience. (Heck, myspace still has millions of visitors but in common conversation, almost everyone would call it dead.)
If we want more people, we should think about how others view us, and instead of being angry that they aren’t being literal, maybe we can think how to play to our strengths.
I dunno, rants like this just feel like we’re being angry at people for a completely reasonable take on the fediverse.
I agree, however we are currently shrinking not growing
Just FYI, lots of instances are implementing anti scraper/ai tools so the numbers are going to look wacky depending on the tracker.
Where can you monitor it?
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24
you can also count Mbin and PieFed, but they aren’t as big
Comments have been rising but users decreasing, could this be that people have settled to one account or that bots have made more comments?
Also the wave of speculative users and tourists who were only ever going to just check it out has died down while the actually invested users have settled more in.
It’s not about how many people are here, it’s about how engaged those who stay are.
We still need more people here, we cannot support niche communities and as such lose that wreath of knowledge that made Reddit good.
True, I think as long as the comments are not from bots it’s looking fine. And I haven’t noticed anything like that here.
It would be nice to know the ratio of users/bots in X, Reddit, Facebook, … and the Fediverse. I’m pretty sure we would be surprised.
All forums can be used to influence general opinion. If there were more users here I’m sure there would be more pressure trying to get past the current safeguards. What do you think about the bot situation here?
Someone mentioned nodeBB in the Reddit thread: https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/stats&months=24
The numbers seem odd, @1@activitypub.space do you think they are accurate?
most of that seems to come from https://nodebb.fediverse.observer/community.sketchucation.com
Thank you, that would make sense. Not sure if any of their communities federate with any other Threadiverse instance
no users. Lets stop pretending we can fix this by moving to yet another different platform
“We can’t fix the ‘no users’ problem by adding more users”
if all the people who said this actually went on Lemmy/PieFed and started leaving comments on posts, they would have nothing left to complain about
IMO someone looking to be fed a constant stream of content will always be happier with commercial platforms. Someone looking to participate in a community or have discussions can be convinced to come to the fediverse.
there are more users than i could ever talk to. that’s plenty.
That’s an excellent point. I don’t think I’ve ever spoken to you before and I’m always meeting new people other places
for sure! and i’m often updooting your posts, which i enjoy, even if i’ve not yet commented!
Glad you like them mate 👍
I only block jerks and there are more every day!
That’s how I know this particular social media is growing.
Like complaining about the number of people on the rafts versus the Titanic. You can stay there if you want, but you are never going to “fix” a platform that you don’t control.
38k is more than enough activity for a plateform to be lively. Especially when those user are spread across the world, allow for content at every hour.
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My best experience with forums was one where we celebrated the day we got 300 users at the same time. It still felt vibrant, active, nice to be there.
Indeed, even with 20 active people you can already have a vibrant community.
Yep!! I grew up on message boards like that, it was lovely. You don’t need that many people and IMO the small end is better
Don’t feed the trolls. They don’t need to be here anyway
Also commercial platforms try to maximize their user count so they can sell more ads.
Meanwhile, fediverse has little interest in increasing its user numbers, because we don’t generate money from it. In fact, more users would probably mean (slightly) higher infrastructure costs, though i’m not sure how much they actually are or whether one could consider them “negligible”.
Anyways, if we had more users, we’d also have more diverse content on Lemmy, and i would definitely appreciate that. Honestly, it’s a bit sad that 50% of the posts on the frontpage are about US politics, but i guess it’s just a topic that gets a lot of traction because it affects a lot of people and also because there’s not so much other content on the platform yet. I hope we’ll get more communities about somebody’s fringe favorite topics. :D
Centralised platforms trying to be all things to all users are a terrible idea.
Especially when each Lemmy user is valued at 342 times the worth of a Reddit user.
How dare you insult all lemmings with that low estimate haha
their loss…
It’s frustrating to see people considering 4 upvotes something to be frustrated about.
No users. Let’s not fix this by not moving there. 🤯
Personal experience: the smaller group is, the more friendly and stick-together group will be.
Reddit had bots for a fucking long time. And since they allowed to close up user profiles post/comment history, tracking who is who became harder. There is no way that wasn’t by design, it most certainly is. There is no secret that reddit is in cahoots with LLM companies. They will use (or already are using) bots to populate their site and probably will skew public perception in a desired way using bots.
Not like Lemmy has no bots. But it’s so much more peaceful here.
