I don’t have anything against artificial meats, but I would be pissed.
I feel like this wasn’t the first straw, so to speak.
Nah, you don’t know meat eaters, they get violent over nothing all the time. They’ll even pay for an animal to be killed just to make a hamburger taste better
They’ll even pay for an animal to be killed
hardly anyone does that
If a city offers to pay 2 coins for every rat’s tail brought to them, are they paying for animals to be killed?
say what you want to say
Why?
Because i don’t like being deceived.
“Oh no, there wasn’t any animal in this delicious meal. I feel so cheated.”
Does it matter, or isn’t it even positive, if the deception was successful?
Maybe if previous groundwork had been laid, the relationship was otherwise strong, and it wasn’t at such a symbolic event as Thanksgiving. But deception really burns a lot of bridges.
Does vegan substitute turkey taste/feel like real turkey now? The only time I ever had something like that was years ago and it was terrible. If that stuff hasn’t improved I’d rather they just make some other vegan dish that’s actually good and isn’t just trying to be something it’s not. Or at least give me a heads up so I can eat something else before I come over. I’m not going to fight someone about it though.
Just did a quick google search and the products that came up look to be the same as what I had before.
It doesn’t even matter. That chud would be upset if the same happened in reverse, if someone hid meat is their food without telling them.
The problem here is that they have an agenda, and all actions are OK if it means their agenda is met. It’s about, “the ends justify the means”.
People who feel “I’m OK with deceiving someone who disagrees with me” are the worst kind of people. They treat their point of view as the one truth and any action can be justified if it meets the needs of the one truth.
It’s not what I am expecting. If it was agreed upon, then fine. You don’t just spring a tofu turkey on unsuspecting guests.
Yes, and maybe the sauce was made with vegan cream and zucchini was used instead of eggplant. The only thing that matters is whether it tastes good. Why does it matter if an animal died for it?
This is not about the animal.
If you substituted the tofu for a nut alternative you could be bringing people in harms way. They might not be deathly allergic but maybe it messes with their digestion or some medicine.
Open communication over food is important. Never trick people.
Some people don’t take well to soy. This might not have been the reason for the altercation here but that doesn’t excuse trickery.
Turkey is trash food. You can’t make it worse by removing the turkey.
Of all things to get violent about…
This free food is slightly different than what I expected!!!
“slightly”
I would usually just ignore this, but this is about pointless violence. Yeah vegan turkey is wildly different. But do you think that warrants violence?
If I got invited to a BBQ and they was smoking tofu, I’d still be excited to eat some food someone put effort into.
So I’ll ask, was the word “slightly” the big takeaway you got from my comment?
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Because restraint creates dramatic tension.
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Also, turkey is garbage meat.
Turkey is delicious. Big skill issue
No argument here, but it’s a nice departure from chicken the other 364 days.
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I don’t. I’m usually a big veggie person. But $5 rotisserie is kinda what’s up.
The question is whether expectations were just not met or whether lying was involved.
Serving food under false pretense is not OK. People should be informed what they are consuming.
I wouldn’t want to be served meat in something otherwise vegan just because they think it doesn’t count.
Turkey is overrated, let’s make buffalo wings the new traditional meat
Seconded. Anyone ever seen a buffalo fly? They clearly aren’t using them anyway.
Hah I literally proposed this at Thanksgiving this year.
Wait, are we related?
Has anyone ever made buffalo wings with turkey wings instead of chicken? Hmmm…
Brisket.
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ITT: People with skill issues when it comes to turkey.
People would be saying the same thing about brisket if that was the traditional Thanksgiving meal.
Turkey is a surprisingly unforgiving meat being made by a lot of home cooks that don’t that don’t actually know how to properly prep and cook it.
Looks like the fight was semi successful given that shiner on the left eye
see, this is an example of how it should be, instead of people who conflate “understanding motives” with “approving of motives”
I couldn’t say the number of times I’ve been downvoted and shat upon for answering the question “what were they thinking / why did they do this?” with a plausible reason for somebody else’s actions. but it’s high enough to have pissed me off enough to mostly just hate people until they show me otherwise (among many other reasons) nowadays
The question “what were they thinking […]” comes with the secret addendum of “[…] to justify this”.
By answering the question posed you are justifying them at least in the mind of most people. Most people can see what they were thinking just fine. They are asking why that would justify their behaviour.
yeah, it doesn’t, though. otherwise it would be asked. people making that assumption are dumb.
This is what I am telling you. You are the person missing a generally agreed upon thing. That is not a judgement on your intelligence mind you.
People usually do not need these kind of pointers, so they are left out. People always shorten things they assume to be implied.
It is entirely fine to miss these things and some people do. Being surprised that people misinterpret your comments regularly should give you pause.
I see your point. and I still disagree.
just because many people are stupid, doesn’t mean it’s right. there’s also no way to know the ratio, and my experience indicates that most people agree with my perspective.
Your experience according to yourself is such that people down vote you because they do not see it like you do. How does that influence your experience? Are you just throwing away all indicators that you might be wrong?
I do not think you are dumb but I think your view on other people is clouded by the need to be right. I suffer of this as well but calling people dumb and never reflecting is not the way even if the alternative is hard.
Turkey is F tier poultry though so I get wanting to have nothing to do with it.
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If it was chicken i could understand but i bet the vegan alternatives tasted better than the turkey
I don’t do thanksgiving but I understand it. Seitan is just delicious.
