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When I was homeless, I stayed at a Salvation Army shelter. They knew I was trans and that my legal gender is male, but they put me in the women and families area. I never got misgendered or disrespected while I was there.
That is, last I checked, against policy. Someone decided personally to have a little mutiny and not be a dick.
It seemed like everyone knew and was cool about it. I was on a first name basis with all the staff and residents. I had to go to the front office every night to get my HRT for the first few weeks until I saw a doctor and got a note that says I can take my own medication. I never had a problem getting my estrogen pills. And at one point a crazy guy developed a harmless obsession with me and kept bugging the staff about seeing me. They told him he’s not allowed in the women’s and families area and he just has to wait until I come to the mess hall for lunch or dinner. He wanted my help finding aliens or something, the point is all the staff knew where I was and that I was supposed to be there because I’m a girl
I looked it up
https://www.salvationarmy.org.au/about-us/inclusion/
https://others.org.au/news/2023/02/07/salvos-show-their-support-at-melbourne-pride-march/
They said they’re sorry and they’re trying to do better, and I think they are doing better
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I’ve written my grocery store asking them to remove the bigot bucket
It didn’t help
Did you trying flaming donations?
Context?
The Salvation Army has, throughout it’s history, stuck with the anti-gay stance of it’s Christian roots, and for some reason everybody remembered that this season.
they, additionally, are against labor unions and secular soup kitchens. they claim to want to help people, but they won’t help people unless it feeds their savior complex and control over congregation.
the funny part to me is that jesus reads as an anti-authoritarian. he preaches that it is better to help the hungry than to be dogmatic about orthodoxy. makes the salvation army seem pretty unchristian
if this were a socialist country, we would’ve had a better alternative to the salvation army. seriously!
Most years people keep forgetting. There’s a lot going on these days, it’s easy to lose track.
The salvation army is a big church and big churches don’t like LGBT. They are typically out in force this time of year with the red buckets in front of a lot of big box stores in the US.
The salvation army is a big church and big churches don’t like LGBT.
There are similarly big churches to the Salvation Army that are inclusive of LGBTQ+, please don’t spread misinformation.
I’m not “spreading misinformation”, I’m sharing my lived experience. I’m aware that I haven’t personally checked with every single church but my experience is typically that they all say we’re god’s creation and should be respectful, but there’s always that whispered “except them”.
I also have experienced discrimination and bigotry from churches, but I know now there are plenty of inclusive big churches and I wanted people to understand that.
I went through 4 years of high school at a Born Again church because my parents forced me there and every day was hell. They suspected I was gay and being called the f-slur was the least of my issues.
i would direct people to in particular consider coalition building with the united methodist church and evangelical Lutheran christian in america (ELCA). neither group is perfect but they’re both involved in civil rights activism
Around December in the US, the Salvation Army(A Christian group with a bigoted history and overpriced secondhand goods stores) set up outside stores, ringing hand bells and asking for donations.
They’re everywhere that allow them. You cannot escape the ringing bells.
Here in Canada too unfortunately
I’m so sorry. But, this did lead me to learning something! I had assumed they were US-based, just given their sheer prevalence in some parts of the country.
Nope, it’s the fucking English. Headquarters in London. Just… Goddammit, England.
Feeling alone, the Army’s up the road
Salvation a la mode with a cup of tea- Aqualung by Jethro Tull
Here in the SF Bay Area, most of the malls and stores don’t allow the Salvation Army or the Hari Krishnas or any group to solicit. I don’t even recall a Girl Scout Troupe selling cookies. I still keep the “Don’t donate” Vouchers in my wallet just in case I run across a bell ringer in front of a Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby that somehow got approved by the local planning commission.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ec/23/23/ec23236932789ab99222c7df093eefdd.jpg
Refusing to donate to the salvation army and then going to hobby lobby or chik fil a is pretty wild
Those stores are also located in strip mall areas with other stores, they could just be walking by.
In my expirence they are also commonly stand alone. Especially the chil fil a
So we need answers
You can also see them as you drive by, you don’t have to crusade against everyone
Okay okay I won’t crusade.
Perhaps just a little Spanish inquisition?
Well that was unexpected…
i think they were just trying to give examples of shitty places that allow SA solicitors
Maybe they’re going out of their way to express their discontent 🤷♀️
But make eye contact and acknowledge the slave’s presence.
This isn’t hyperbole btw. The salvation army literally uses these people as slaves.
(cough) Volunteers. How could we survive Xmas without euphemisms.
How are they slaves?? I had assumed they were volunteers…
Court ordered community service most likely. But also people just looking for help are sent out to do this.
I hate hearing that annoying bell in front of every store.
I’m starting to get a bit done with moralizing though. Not like they are present in my country as far as I know, but if someone gets to sleep in a house instead of the street in the winter at the price of homophobia still existing and maybe someone in that same house being homophobic I’m not going to pretend that something despicable has just happened.
Sure in a good world we don’t need a charity doing such an important job to be bigoted but it’s not like the meme says who to donate to instead.
They refuse to let overtly LGBTQ people stay and demand that gay men break up with their boyfriends by policy. People have frozen to death outside their centers after being denied entry or being kicked out for being LGBTQ as a result of their bigoted policies.
Homeless shelters are usually locally run, and I’m sure your local Food Pantry or something would appreciate a donation (especially this time of the year), but if you want to help LGBTQ people worldwide, you could do worse than donating here: https://www.thetrevorproject.org/
there’s other shelters that salvation army actively antagonizes and lobbies against so they can have a monopoly on coercing the homeless into swearing to be devout to the salvation army’s christofascist views.
Don’t donate cash to anyone, simple as. Make deliberate choices about who you donate to, do research, budget it, keep receipts, regardless of which organisation shows up at your grocery store. You should always give money to beggars, just not to predatory charities.
Oh, Skeleton Army tread.
are there any alternatives to the salvation army?
