• lumpenproletariat ( Deceptichum@quokk.au ) 
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    Alright people, that’s a wrap. I’m going to be handing out a few bans, if you think I’ve banned you wrongly (or missed someone) feel free to message as I’m only human and may make some mistakes trying to navigate this dumpster fire of a comments section.

    Edit: Done, I think? Some comment removal is not working, or maybe taking a bit of time in the background. Please report anything you see if you’ve come across it.

  • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) Banned from community
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    IDK, I’m not sold.

    Neither Man nor Bear isn’t presented as an option, the choices were Man or Bear so anybody who chooses Bear is CHOOSING THE BEAR. Bears are not kind to humans in their territory, if you run into a mother then you’re going to be torn apart.

      • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) Banned from community
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        See that’s actually not true, because there are more men total than bears total and people are generally much more exposed to men than bears. Let’s say you go to a city and walk past a hundred people. Bears are safer, so you’d be perfectly justified to walk past a hundred bears?

        • TowardsTheFuture ( TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip ) 
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          I don’t think you understand what adjusted for population means. Bears kill like 2.6 people a year.

          Humans kill ~11,000 times as many, and have 100 times the population. So humans are 110x more likely to kill you than a bear. (Note this is humans, not men. Men are responsible for 87.5% of known murders, but 50% of the population.) Adjusting for this, men are ~145 to 200x more likely to kill a human than a bear (like a quarter of murders are unknown so I gave it a wide range) You also have to take into account humans are generally bound by society and thus most human interaction won’t be as dangerous where as it’s not like a bears gonna be like “uh oh there are cameras here or other people might see me kill this person” so like… yeah you can’t perfectly account for everything but uh, point being bears really aren’t that dangerous if you see one alone in the woods.

          Also sorry if I didn’t provide links and math might be slightly whatever I was taking and shit and honestly don’t care that much.

          Edit: and before you try and say anything else please note this is me being nice and only looking at literal murder. Ignoring assault and sexual assault and etc, which all bear attacks are about 35 a year total and… yeah human numbers are uh, MUCH higher.

    • So, certain death is preferable to meeting the average male randomly in the woods, in other words, the average woman believes the average man will rape and kill her. That’s all we need to say about male/female relations in 2026.

      • FiniteBanjo ( FiniteBanjo@feddit.online ) Banned from community
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        This is the first time I’ve ever seen the phrase used to justify ignorance of danger, on basis of statistical outliers ignoring all context and risk factors. It kind of works but it’s also incredibly stupid.

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          Since that’s not what it was being used to justify, you’ve helpfully proven my point by reenacting it, staring at the tree and insisting it’s the forest.

          This happens more often than you’d think, so don’t feel too bad.

    • ideonek ( ideonek@piefed.social ) 
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      And I will always choose the bear I will always choose the wolves No matter what they do, they wouldn’t blame my clothes I would rather choose to die Let my body decompose Cause even when you’re ash, thеy will never let you go

  • Flickerby ( Flickerby@lemmy.zip ) Banned from community
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    This argument is so dumb. Women are assuming the random man will rape them just because (what?) and men are assuming the women would rather get mauled to death by a bear (likely) then what I think they’re thinking is that they can befriend it or something? It is mildly insulting when someone says to your face “I’d rather be mauled to death than spend a second alone with you”. I’ve never come across this situation in real life however so I think this is a nonsense internet argument intended to drum up division and distract us from making guillotines.