President Donald Trump has said the U.S. will revisit its stance on Greenland in the coming weeks.

Asked if he expected to take action on the territory, Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Sunday: “Let’s talk about Venezuela, Russia, Ukraine. We’ll worry about Greenland in about two months. Let’s talk about Greenland in 20 days.”

He added: “We need Greenland from a national security situation. It’s so strategic.”

    • Greenland is a goner, I’m afraid.
      Even worse, with mounting aggression from East and West, and our own right-wing parties handing our enemies the continent on a silver platter, Greenland’s fall is going to usher in a century of humiliation for Europe.

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    • Dekkia ( Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it ) 
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      Hot take: even if they would get released uncensored and in full, nothing would happen.

      We would just have confirmation on what we aready know.

      At this point talking about the files is a distraction from the atrocities the US government commits and not the other way around.

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        Yeah. I’ve been saying it for some time that Trumps base was more worried about him possibly blowing Clinton than him fucking kids. Trump could make a press statement saying he fucked kids and he loves fucking kids and he wants to continue fucking kids and the only thing that would happen (apart from the fake outrage) is conservatives would normalize fucking kids.

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        Even hotter take: those thousands of pages may contain evidence of pedophelia, sex trafficking and abuse - but it is most likely a misdirect because the estate either wouldn’t release the blackmail material Epstein had on politicians of the world - large scale political crimes that would have them prosecuted in their own country - or couldn’t, because Epstein kept that under tight wrap.

        And a molten lava take: the CIA was thr ones who offed Epstein so that Trump would never get access to that material, because then he’d have the same leverage Putin has over Russian politicians and elites, meaning he would have had a much higher chance of taking over the entire country - and they did it out of self preservation for themselves and not for liberty of US citizens.

        But also: Venezuela is a distraction from the Epstein files, because most Americans agree that it is disgusting and the perpetrators should face justice. Now Greenland and Colombia is up to bat, because quoteth Trump:

        “You shouldn’t be focusing on the Epstein files, but Venezuela, Russia and Ukraine - we’ll talk about Greenland in a couple of weeks” - which is something he said recently in an interview.

        But, still: I’d like to personally thank the CIA for preventing a Putin 2.0: the Trumpeting, but also: Trump and everyone else in the released files should be tried and face justice.

        Now if you’ll excuse me, this tea is making me feel queezy and I’ve been shedding hair more than usual lately - heck, I even shredded some skin. That’s normal for my age, right?

    • Pechente ( Pechente@feddit.org ) 
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      Or you know. Like the US has done before Trump. There are already US military bases and I‘m sure he could have built more and even extracted minerals for a fee. But nope it has to be his. Fuck everyone else, including the US by proxy.

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      Yeah, Denmark and the EU would happily let the US military do whatever they want/it needs to defend against Russia and China. This argument is bullshit, just like kidnapping Maduro because if drugs.

      If there is one single thing that is consistent, it is that US foreign politics aims at enriching the Trump clan and the US oligarchs. Under this premise, it all makes sense.

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        The US HAS a base in Greenland. Formerly Thule Air Base, now Pituffik Space Base belongs to the United States Space Force, (which Trump created) and used to station B-52 Bombers and shit like that to threaten the USSR during the cold war.

        Thing ist:

        The 1951 Greenland Defense Agreement allows the United States to operate the base under a NATO framework, as long as both Denmark and the United States remain NATO members.

        (Emphasis by me)

        I think Trump wants to leave NATO and keep this important base.

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      The US is not Trump. There must be a bunch of strategists who think that cooperation is enough. The US billionaires would impeach Trump if the move would be stupid.

      So there is more to it. Crazy Trump is a deception.

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    It’s people like these that stop humanity from ever evolving past meaningless wars and eternal petty garbage. Trump, Putin, Xi and others are the reason why humanity can’t have good things.

    Trump has forever tarnished the USA as a beacon of freedom and democracy. I’m hopeful the american people will see this eventually, but history contradicts that hope.

    • Phoenixz ( phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 
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      This

      We need to stop allowing psychopaths and narcissists from getting any power whatsoever

      We have a list of requirements if you want to become a fireman. If you want to become a lawyer, it’s a protected job that not anyone can do, you must pass the bar and whatnot to be able to call yourself one

      Want to become a politician and make the rules? Suddenly there are no rules nor requirements, any idiot is welcome. WTF?

      If you were born with, say, a deformed hand, we don’t let you become a fireman because you need your arms

      If you’re born without the ability to feel empathy for others, or literally can only care about yourself, or are incapable or stopping with lying, then apparently you’re perfect for the type of job where you make rules for others and have to decide what happens to others. WTF?

      Stop psychopaths and narcissists from becoming politicians, have a law against it

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      It’s also plenty of people that support them. Some folks just like to watch the world burn.

      What saddens me is that somehow the idea of uniting and flourishing together is not universally accepted as good. Some people always want more for themselves, and it’s often easy to manipulate them into identifying themselves and the nation, the nation and its leaders. To them, Trump or Putin or Xi getting another ambition played feels like personal victory. In fact, it’s rather everybody’s loss.

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      Trump, Putin, Xi and others are the reason why humanity can’t have good things.

      Also, the “good” people who believe that remaining polite and non-confrontational is the best way to appease bullies, because it has ALWAYS worked so well on the past. They are the ones who determine that sometimes maniacs become so psychopathic, that we are better off letting them do whatever they want, because ultimately it might be slightly less lethal to millions of people.

      Or you could keep those people away from the leadership of your nation in the first place, but that wouldn’t be polite. Everybody deserves a turn at the steering wheel, even if they are suicidal.

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      It is his typical “If I set a deadline sometime in the near future, then they will probably stop talking about it because they will have forgotten about it, just like I will have forgotten about it”. He did it with his healthcare plan, his plan for eradicating ISIS and so forth.

      I wish journalists would stop asking him about Greenland, because it only serves to remind him about it, and make him aware it is something which makes people talk about him, which really turns him on as a pathological narcissist. If they stopped asking him about it, he would stop talking about it and forget it in those 20 days to 2 months.

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        I wish journalists would stop asking him about Greenland, because it only serves to remind him about it

        Half right. The above blurb clearly states that he started talking about it:

        President Donald Trump has said the U.S. will revisit its stance on Greenland in the coming weeks.

        Asked if he expected to take action on the territory

        Yet the journalist couldn’t resist egging him on, and yeah, I resent that. He must be such an easy target for journalists: prod him, you always get a controversial quote. And that’s a big part of what got him into & keeps him in power.

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    We’ll worry about Greenland in about two months. Let’s talk about Greenland in 20 days.

    60 days = 20 days. Got it.

    We need Greenland from a national security situation. It’s so strategic.

    Much strategic. So situation.

    I’ve thinking a lot this past year about John Oliver’s segment on how this loon is undeniably, comically stupid, but that he’s equally dangerous, and the former often seriously undercuts the latter. He sounds like he’s having a stroke most of the time, sure, but I keep wondering how long it will take for leaders to figure out that they need to take his gibberish seriously. Maybe the latest abduction of a world leader will clue them in.

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    A related question I have: Was the US ever (publicly) interested in “acquiring” Greenland before Trump? His comments are the first of the sort I ever noticed, but I could imagine the idea having a longer tradition.

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      They were literally offered Greenland by the Danish ambassodor during WWII, and could have kept it after the war, but chose to hand it back. So no, the purposes of the US with Greenland has been served perfectly fine with the previous diplomatic arrangements they have had.

      There is no sense to this other than Trump sees how big and beautiful it looks on a map in the same colour as the US territory.

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      Trump has flouted the idea in 2019 already, and there is some history. But just to be clear, the mere fact that the USA have expressed interest in Greenland one way or another over the centuries does of course not legitimize that interest! And afaics there’s nothing more to it. Just “interest” a.k.a. greed, expansionism, imperialism.

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        Thanks, very interesting. I think I had read about the US occupying Greenland during WWII (defensively), but not about the buy offers.

        And yes, obviously nothing legitimises these threats. I was just interested to see whether Trump came up with it or whether it has some history in US political circles, which it appears it does.

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      I remember George W Bush talking about buying Greenland from us back in the 2000s. We thought he was a crazy bastard but I actually miss Bush. He was the fun kind of incompetent.

      Before that there was a very embarrassing moment in time during the 50s where the US illegally used Greenland for nuclear experiments and left the nuclear waste on Greenland and pissed on us when our government tried to get them to take responsibility for the clean up. I see that as an invasion too, but it was kept hush hush for years. It’s still a problem now that the ice is melting.