Starting on February 1st, 2026, all of the above mentioned Countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, and Finland), will be charged a 10% Tariff on any and all goods sent to the United States of America. On June 1st, 2026, the Tariff will be increased to 25%. This Tariff will be due and payable until such time as a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.

      • Elvith Ma'for ( elvith@feddit.org ) 
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        I mean… They might somewhat hurt us, too.

        Say we send product X and charge $10 and another country`s product charges $10.50. When there’s a 10% tax, we now need to charge $11 and might lose sales. But the question is whether 10% is enough of a deterrent (and whether there are viable alternatives from other countries for the US)

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          All true, but you know: The US puts tariffs on everyone, everyone else “only” has to deal with the US. We even just made a new trade deal with half of South America. That has to be worth something, if we have to cut off the US?! Well, in practice it is now complicated because our politicians are a bit slow to recognize that the US might not be the strong partner anymore, that we had for the last 80 years. But even they will get there eventually, I hope

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    Trump doesn’t honor any agreement he signs, why even bother with trade agreements with USA anymore.

    China atleast is as consistent as you could ever ask for. If both nations attack their own citizens and limit free speech then why even bother with America anymore. I would trust China far more than America currently.

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    That would be a good opportunity to throw the EU-US trade deal negotiated last year into the dustbin, since Trump has already violated it with the tariffs and no one in the EU was happy with it anyway. They only accepted it at the time because they were afraid of the U.S. ceasing to support Ukraine otherwise. Well, the U.S. doesn’t support Ukraine anymore anyway.

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    It’s time for the EU to drop the anti-circumvention laws pushed onto them (and other countries) through trade deals long ago. It’ll enable a true right to repair, as well as resilience against foreign influence by being able to inspect and replace firmware and software.

    While they’re at it, maybe reduce copyright after death too.

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    We have subsidized Denmark, and all of the Countries of the European Union, and others, for many years by not charging them Tariffs, or any other forms of remuneration. Now, after Centuries, it is time for Denmark to give back — World Peace is at stake! China and Russia want Greenland, and there is not a thing that Denmark can do about it. They currently have two dogsleds as protection, one added recently.

    This is just a small start of his ramblings and man, he’s taking some good drugs there because how hard do you have to be tripping balls to even remotely believe any of that shit.

    Literally every word is a lie there and it just gets worse

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      I’m reasonably confident that neither Russia nor China have any interest in Greenland. Primarily because they clearly don’t. They could have attacked Greenland at any point in the last 60 years they haven’t.

      China is primarily interested in the Middle East, India, and Africa and Russia is not currently in a state to be threatening anyone else, least of all NATO.

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    I think it is a great mistake for anyone in the comments to start being China apologists just because Trump is acting like a retard.

    I think you’re all severely underestimating the shit China does. Trumps America isn’t anywhere close to being as fucked up as China is, and I say this as a Dane who is currently dealing with the severe hatred and feelings of betrayal towards our former allies.

    Let’s not start simping for China because America sucks. Let’s not do that. I only have a surface level understanding of what goes on in China, and that is still enough for me to say with confidence that current day America is still less of a hell hole by comparison.

    I wpuld rather focus the energy in Europe to make us stronger over time so that we can be our own super power and not have to lean on the other trash bin super powers out there.

    It won’t happen over night and might not even happen in my lifetime, but if we can work toward that goal, I would be happy. We have survived worse.

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        Anyone who claims that China is better than the US even in the current Trump-version has even less of an understanding of China. My point was that it is scary to me, as someone who hasn’t studied Chinese history and politics in-depth, to see people who clearly know nothing about China, call it better than the US. At least I can admit my lack of knowledge.

        But let me ask you this: do you think that a country that is heavily censoring its people, to the point that a Taiwanese video game was erased off the market, because it made a joke about Xi Jinping, a country that has systematically suppressed and erased entire ethnic groups’ cultures and history and throwing some of them in concentration camps where they still are to this day, struggling with a horrific human trafficking epidemic both in terms of sexual slaves but also children being kidnapped and sold in illegal adoptions, subjected their populations to inhumane and unspeakable treatment during Covid, lies about the death toll of Chinese citizens during Covid, has insane poverty and oppression of its people to this day and has yet to acknowledge what happened on tiananmen square - which, need I remind you - was a horrific slaughter of innocent youths - do you think such a country is less evil and dangerous than current day America? I am not saying American is in a great place right now, and I do not think for a second that Trump is doing the country any long term favours, but China has one of the most bloody and disturbing histiories of any current super power and the shadows have carried over from that time into current day where maybe some things have gotten a bit better relative to the horror years of peaches like Mao, but the effects of these past regimes and the social indoctrination and oppression is nothing any American or any westerner, really, can fully understand nor appreciate. I have read a few books and briefly talked to classmates of Chinese descent. One of them wrote a book about how her mom escaped China and fled to Europe. She’s not that old. It wasn’t a nice holiday, let me tell you.

        But please continue with your smug insinuations and tell me how fucking educated you are about this subject. I would love to hear you convince me how America is worse than China. I heard some ding dong in this thread say that China was better because at least they only terrorize their own population and not the world. It is hard to somment on something so stupid.

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        If you have to ask, then it is time to read up on some basic history. Key words to use:

        Mao

        Tiananem square

        Xinjiang internment camps

        The one child policy, it’s immediate consequences and current day consequences.

        Human trafficking, sex trafficking, abductions and illegal adoptions

        Women’s rights in China

        Gay rights in China. Specifically the banning and censorship of apps like grinder and erasure of “effeminate men” in media

        China during Covid

        China human rights violations

        China freedom of speech

        Maybe some of these will give you a head start.

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          Tiananmen Square was not simply a violent escalation of the Chinese state, so not sure if I’d wanna count that, and the “Xianjang Internment camps” still seem like made up bullshit by Adrian Zenz and the likes. But I didn’t simply ask what makes China bad, because I’m well aware of that, I asked what makes it worse than the US. Key words here:

          Literally every president the US ever had in the past decades

          War for almost the entire existence of the country

          ICE and their camps

          Pretty much daily school shootings and overall gun culture for that matter

          Women’s rights in the US

          Police violence

          Horrible healthcare system causing thousands of deaths every year

          Increasingly limited LGBTQ rights

          War on Drugs

          War on Terror

          Support of or direct involvement in multiple genocides

          Massive surveillance network, not just in the US, but globally

          Hundreds of military bases all across the world

          Guantanamo Bay

          Human rights violations

          Preventing people in certain countries from accessing certain much needed medications and extortion of pharmaceutical companies in other countries

          Meddling in other countries’ political environment and even killing or kidnapping democratically elected heads of states

          Creation and funding of terrorist groups and states

          Bombing mostly innocent countries to ashes and committing countless war crimes, including the use of nuclear and chemical weapons

          I’m probably still missing things…


          China overall has bad track record when it comes to everything related to all kinds of individual freedoms, but considering that the US is actually deliberately killing and torturing people to no end (at least on a much, much larger scale than China), I’d say that they are way worse than China. And again, this is no excuse for China, I just think they don’t match the cruelty of the American empire.

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            You are truly lost if you think America is anywhere close to the cruelty of China. Truly. You have had Dictator wannabe Trump in office for one year and you think this is in any way comparable to the decades of oppression that the Chinese have been subjected to?

            Trump is terrible, no doubt, and I would be the first one to criticize the American welfare system, or lack thereof, but Americans have not experienced an ounce of what the Chinese people have. You can only say this if you are bad faith or entirely ignorant of the reality of the world.

            You might even be a Russian troll at this point. Absolutely divorced from reality.

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              Most of the points you made were about lack of individual freedoms, which I agree is bad, but doesn’t come close to actually killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people during the past decades like the US did. And why do you keep bringing up Trump? I didn’t mention him even once in my comments. I don’t care about him, he is a symptom of a much larger issue, not the cause. I’m not just talking about the oppression and killings of people within US borders, but also outside of them, and that’s where China doesn’t even compare to the US.

              If “Trump” and “welfare system” are the only relevant points you got from everything I listed, I’m not sure that I’m the one acting in bad faith. It seems like you purposefully don’t even consider all the atrocities of the US outside of their own borders, but why should you, after all they’re just some stupid foreigners, right?

              Everyone who is even slightly critical of the Western world is a Russian troll, I know. I don’t think I’m the one who is acting in bad faith and divorced from reality.

              [Addendum]: Something I think you didn’t mention yet is the amount of people executed by the Chinese state, even for the simplest “crimes” like possession of drugs. That’s about the worst I can think of about China, and it’s one aspect that I would actually call a real atrocity that is worse than in the US. But the death penalty shouldn’t exist at all, so the US doesn’t gain any sympathy points from me in this case either.

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      China is in no way an appropriate strategic, economic or military partner. Its is on the other side of the planet, it has only its own best interests in mind to make itself into a regional superpower that does EXACTLY what Trump and Putin does. Its economic system is the polar opposite of Europe, open and free market vs protectionist and state-controlled market). Militarily it is growing fast but is still highly regional with limited power projection (i.e. cannot help us).

      Wanting to partner with China against US makes no sense, they are the primary financier of Russia with the deliberate intent on weakening Europe and distract us from competing with them globally. Not to mention that America isn’t our enemy, but Trump and his regime specifically, the vast (75%) majority of US is against the Greenland grab.

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        I agree with everything you say, but I still have to treat America as my enemy as long as they are run by lunatics. Nothing against normal everyday Americans, but it doesn’t help me any to know that they don’t want this to happen if it in fact ends up happening anyway. I’d like for all of this to be a bluff and trump is just being a retard as always, trying to force us to give him mining rights to Greenland…. Which he already kinda had but whatever. Problem is, you just can’t trust anything this monster does and when he has all the power of the US nation, I just can’t sit here and be like murica isn’t my enemy, it’s just trump. Well, trump is using murica to potentially start a war with my country so…

        But America is still not as bad as China. People are terrifyingly ignorant about China in this comment section. Are they all Hasanabi fans, or what? 😆