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Iced Raktajino ( IcedRaktajino@startrek.website )  to Fediverse memes@feddit.ukEnglish · 8 months ago

We did this to ourselves here

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We did this to ourselves here

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Iced Raktajino ( IcedRaktajino@startrek.website )  to Fediverse memes@feddit.ukEnglish · 8 months ago
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  • Rimu ( rimu@piefed.social ) 
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    Even if fedi was pure and perfect, it still exists within a wider ecosystem of algo-driven rage and it’s influence leaks in from every side. It’s not just that we don’t exclusively get our news from the fedi it’s that news articles themselves are optimized for rage, the writers are deeply under it’s spell, politician’s media strategy is optimized for it.

    • Iced Raktajino ( IcedRaktajino@startrek.website ) OP
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      True, there’s definitely that. I guess I just wish there was more thought between that and “do I really need to post this?”

      • ptu ( ptu@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Just don’t go full regard

        • teft ( teft@piefed.social ) 
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    • OpenStars ( OpenStars@piefed.social ) 
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      And those who buck the system are fired.

      … or worse.

    • morphite88 ( Morphite88@thelemmy.club ) 
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      Now I’m raging at your misuse of “it’s”

  • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc) ( flamingos@feddit.uk ) 
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    My ragebait is vegan, so you can get mad guilt free.

    • Iced Raktajino ( IcedRaktajino@startrek.website ) OP
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      Nice. My ragebait is mostly solar powered so also largely guilt free.

    • macniel ( DmMacniel@feddit.org ) 
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      But is it gluten free? I’m MAD!

  • Chemical Wonka ( chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    4376

    Our garbage in this case

  • macniel ( DmMacniel@feddit.org ) 
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    The thing is, this 100% organic rage is OUR rage, not the rage of our supposed technofeudal overlords.

  • salacious_coaster ( salacious_coaster@feddit.online ) 
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    deleted by creator

    • [deleted] ( snooggums@piefed.world ) 
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      It is fairly easy to accept that it is just amplifying human nature. The main issue is that with the major locked down aggregators the amplification is intentional and continuously changed to increase the amplification by doing things like stuffing divisive posts into feeds.

  • Speiser0 ( Speiser0@feddit.org ) 
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    Sadly this is not true. We do have a recommendation system, called Top. And it spamms me with enraging american politics when I go to All.

    • AmbiguousProps ( AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ) 
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      I prefer “scaled”, which is even more like a recommendation system.

      • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠 ( Nemo@slrpnk.net ) 
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        I prefer “new”.

    • OpenStars ( OpenStars@piefed.social ) 
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      If it is Top, then that is what people are choosing to upvote. But you don’t have to browse by Top. PieFed even offers keyword filters, plus the ability to unsubscribe from all such communities while also allowing you to see them with just the touch of a button to go to a Topic Feed showing it when you (rarely) actually do want it. You could also replicate this behavior in Lemmy, but it takes having one account per Internet area and that’s a huge pain. Or you could just sort by New. Or block the users submitting such content. The list of configuration options available to you is practically endless, and nowhere explained in the slightest degree that would be helpful:-).

      !nonpolitical_comics@piefed.social does a pretty good job of keeping that stuff out.

      • Speiser0 ( Speiser0@feddit.org ) 
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        Sadly, this kind of filtering is (and can not be) the default. And configuring your feed well is hard and takes time. You could also, in theory, do a similar filter thing in the cooperations’ big asocial media sites.

        • OpenStars ( OpenStars@piefed.social ) 
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          I just remember that it was very very much work curating my feed (and constantly needing updating as new communities came out needing to be blocked), back when I was on Lemmy, and then when I switched to PieFed it became incredibly easy. Tbf it did take me a few weeks to get used to it, but ever since I have almost never switched back to scrolling All.

          Even then though, why downvote content simply for existing? Like I don’t live in [insert name of specific neighborhood/town/city/state/region/nation/continent/area of world], or follow [any sports team at all], but even though I don’t want to see its content (usually, I mean like on a daily basis, although perhaps rarely?) I do not begrudge such a community for its mere existence? In fact I celebrate it! I highly disagree with the philosophy displayed by people who downvote such posts that are not relevant to them, harming those communities that are just struggling to get off the ground. I don’t think that’s terribly productive.

          That was a common problem even in the old/bad place, once a post reached r/All causing a flood of toxic newcomers (this one more about receiving toxic comment replies than votes I think). And actually PieFed offers a solution where if the mod configures it such, only votes from subscribed community members gets counted. That aspect won’t federate with Lemmy though, since the latter is only aware of the binary options for voting and can’t handle such nuances currently.

          • Speiser0 ( Speiser0@feddit.org ) 
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            I didn’t know there are people who go to All to downvote stuff for other reasons than trolling.

            I also don’t know why you explained this here in this detail. But thanks for ranting for almost just me! :)

            • OpenStars ( OpenStars@piefed.social ) 
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              Well, they at least claim that they aren’t trolls.

              🤔 Although isn’t that exactly what a troll would say?! I say, I’ve cracked the case! 🧐 They are trolls! Either that, or… they are not, or something else, I dunno.

              If you go by the metric of “if not troll then why behave as troll would?”, then the answer becomes much easier to find:-).

  • Zink ( Zink@programming.dev ) 
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    I went and scrolled facebook recently and it is absolutely crazy. You get some ads, sure, and a few things that real people posted, but like half of what is on there feels like some kind of shady psychological experiment.

    It’s like a whole spectrum of flavors of ultra-processed engagement bait. Much of it is made to look like normal people posting normal things, just with a “follow” next to the name and 5,000 replies from kind old people trapped in a rabbit hole they don’t even know exists.

    • Iced Raktajino ( IcedRaktajino@startrek.website ) OP
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      I can’t even fathom what contemporary Facebook is like. I deleted it in, I think, 2009 or thereabouts, right after they changed the timeline from reverse chronological to whatever their first iteration of the engagement-based one is. I thought that sucked pretty bad, so, yeah, can’t even imagine how bad it is today.

  • CubitOom ( CubitOom@infosec.pub ) 
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    Posting current events in the appropriate communities should not be considered “rage”. People deserve to be informed and have the ability to plan for the future.

    What you are doing is essentially raging against the news.

  • RagnarokOnline ( RagnarokOnline@programming.dev ) 
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    Hell yeah! But don’t forget the beans

  • YiddishMcSquidish ( YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today ) 
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    Outside of the ethical considerations, I’m not militant about the organic label. But I stopped by this little health food store in a tiny town (think ~1k pop.) in a very red state, and she told me that I would never buy brussel sprouts from anywhere else after trying her’s. I was dubious at first, but I just cooked them a few hours ago, and she was absolutely correct! Best sprouts I’ve ever had!

  • PugJesus ( PugJesus@piefed.social ) 
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    Just like mama used to make

  • Fluffy Kitty Cat ( fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ) 
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    I mean things like GIFT are always going to be with us but this feels like the normal level of being angry at idiots on the internet versus turbo corpo enshittification

    • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠 ( Nemo@slrpnk.net ) 
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      GIFT: Get It Fucking Together or is there another acronym you mean?

      • Fluffy Kitty Cat ( fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ) 
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        https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/greater-internet-fuckwad-theory

  • Randomgal ( Randomgal@lemmy.ca ) 
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    There are algorithms driving too, just disguised as ‘users’.

    • OpenStars ( OpenStars@piefed.social ) 
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      Fewer here than there though (presumably).

      • Randomgal ( Randomgal@lemmy.ca ) 
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        It depends on how you count. In total? Sure. Proportional to the population? I don’t know about that. The fediverse is great for testing bot configs and seing how passing they are.

        • OpenStars ( OpenStars@piefed.social ) 
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          Sigh... yeah.:-(

          Like this post explains: https://lemmy.ca/post/58955248.

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