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I believe that GenAI is a scam that should’ve been treated and criminalized/prosecuted like one long before it got to the point of destructiveness that it’s currently at and I’ll die on that hill.
You have my sword.
You want a scenario of ‘what if Theranos was actually successful and Elizabeth Holmes didn’t get busted?’ That’s GenAI in a nutshell.
They tried to argue that all math was useless bullshit because it couldn’t deal with infinity.
I tried to show different ways math has been useful for me personally, and for humanity generally. None of that mattered to them. I tried to explain how math can actually work with infinity. They insisted I was lying.
A part of me thought they were just trying to troll me, but after seeing and interacting with them multiple times afterwards, I’m pretty sure those were their genuine beliefs. They were also a moon landing denier, but after the whole math discussion I didn’t touch that topic with a ten foot pole.
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I now consider it one of many examples of the idea that you can’t use reason and evidence to change someone’s beliefs, if they never used reason or evidence to conclude those beliefs in the first place.
I feel sorry for those who have never felt the excitement of changing their beliefs based on new evidence or understanding, especially when due to their own hubris. Being wrong is an opportunity to learn and discover. Everyone who has ever lived, and will ever live, is sometimes wrong.
In a way, that’s the general theme of this thread. We stood our ground when we knew we were right and could prove it with reason and evidence, while facing opposition that was based on stubbornness, hubris, and refusal to admit to being wrong.
I feel sorry for those who have never felt the excitement of changing their beliefs based on new evidence or understanding, especially when due to their own hubris.
Not only is it sad, nearly everything wrong with the world right now can be boiled down to a handful of people having this character flaw
“Nearly everything” seems a bit hyperbolic, but I absolutely agree that it’s a major problem that has caused, and will likely continue to cause massive unnecessary suffering worldwide.
What really disappointed me about math is that there is a proof that there must be mathematical theorems which cannot be proven or disproven.
I never made the connection until reading your comment, but I now wonder if they heard about the incompleteness theorems and came to their conclusions about math based on a misunderstanding.
I’m sorry to hear that concept disappointed you, but I personally don’t think it ultimately matters or effects the usefulness of math. I see it as similar to the difference between science and engineering. An engineer can create something useful by knowing what works, without knowing precisely why it works. A scientist tries to uncover why things work the way they do, regardless of the utility of that understanding. Often the output of those two fields overlap, but they don’t have to.
Just adding to aMockTie here: I love math, a math-lover, if you will, and I don’t find the incompleteness theorem disappointing, I find it incredibly interesting and captivating. It’s like learning that black holes are real. It gives me the same feeling that watching superfluids in chemistry flow up their containers do.
The fact that the universe conspires to keep us ignorant is so goddamn interesting.
So many people never even look at calculus & how it addresses infinities, it’s got this reputation as difficult but that’s just because of all the different algorithms and rules to learn for different cases, but you can teach the basic operations and build intuitions of differentiation and integration to grade schoolers.
I was once a consultant for wine companies. I was working on helping establish a new wine brand. The client was really clear that they did not want to rely on the idea of terroir, nor their vineyards closeness to the ocean as selling points.
My boss thought the brand should use a bunch sails and anchor imagery to sell the terroir and the vineyard’s closeness to the ocean.
I told him the client wouldn’t like it as they’d been clear that’s not what they wanted. He said I was wrong. If he’d told me the client was wrong that would have been fine but he insisted that I had heard it wrong and started gas lighting me.
Turns out the client felt they’d been really clear that they didn’t want a brand that focused on the terroir and closeness to the ocean and refused to pay for that round of work.
TIL Terroir means “the complete natural environment in which a particular wine is produced, including factors such as the soil, topography, and climate”
Yes, we had a tooling design and it was going to fail because the angles and mechanisms were not right. My boss overruled me, under protest, and we built it how the customer wanted it with no changes.
It failed in production.
There was a big meeting with everyone upset. I said I told you! And tried to reexplain why it doesnt work. They denied knowing about the issues previously.
Thankfully the president stepped in and said, I was in the initial meeting and remember you warning of the potential failure. Then everyone shut up.
We redid everything my way.
Sounds like an awesome president.
I have the same story (with a huge failure at a metal factory) that I had a dozen times made a big scene about how terrible an idea it was. The corporate guy who suggested it decided to email god and country that if only (my team specifically of) engineering had supported us more it wouldn’t have happened like that. I was fuming, spent half the night furiously detailing and outlining my proof of how we supported him, bad idea, etc.
I ended up drunkenly scrapping the entire write up and just reply alling “fuck you (name)”. Perhaps my proudest work moment, tbh.
Lol
yeah I’m autistic this happens very often
That smart phones are surveillance/psyop devices, and that they own you, not them. I’ve been 100% phone free for 5 years now. I’m a 30+ Year IT expert. Also, fuck A.I.
Nobody likes candy corn and anyone who does is trying to gaslight me personally
I liked candycorn till one of my kids made a bunch of it at home and pointed out the layers are just food colour and not a different flavour ingredient etc. The facade was ruined.
Eh, it’s fine. I mean, did you ever expect the different parts of the seasonal pumpkin shaped candy corn to taste like pumpkin? Nah, its all candy corn.
Hmm that inspires me to make pumpkin flavoured ones
I like, and have always liked, candy corn. Consider me a very dedicated gas lighter if you must, but I am probably older than you which makes this quite the complex conspiracy theory.
Time is relative
If you’re walking down stairs or an escalator you stand/walk on the right. always. If you live in a country that drives on the left side then you apply the same to stairs.
When walking on the sidewalk you pass on the right.
People who walk down the opposite side are a cancer to society.
Adding to this, if a group is walking together shoulder to shoulder taking up most of the sidewalk, it’s that groups responsibility to stack when a single person is coming. The single walker should not have to move off the sidewalk to accommodate.
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When walking on the sidewalk you pass on the right.
You walk on the right, but if someone is slow, and there’s no room on the right, you can def pass them on the left. Like driving.
Fun fact, in Japan, they drive on the left. As a result, they also walk on the left on the sidewalk. However in Osaka, they walk up stairs and use escalators “international style” on the right. They still walk on sidewalks on the left side. The rest of the country is not like this.
I’m a structural engineer. It is part of the job.
I’ve been mostly right.
A profession where I’m sure it’s beneficial to be very rigid…
Except during seismic events.
Tell me, as a structural engineer, should I build my home on sand?
Depends on the sand.
That’s also generally more the geotechnical engineer’s call.
What about the graboids?
It’s cheese curds and gravy that make it a poutine, not cheese. You can put cheese AND cheese curds on a poutine along with other stuff, but without cheese curds, all you have is fries and gravy with assorted hangers on.
And them curds better be squeaky!
Pizza that traditionally comes with sauce on top would be better if you did no sauce on top and instead dipped the pizza in sauce as you ate. I like my crunchy.
Climate change is real and damaging to everyone and we need to take action to mitigate its progression. People who deny it are just insane. Not sure why some folks think losing freshwater and having more extreme weather events isn’t a problem but it will end human civilization as we know it and eventually our species as a whole. We need to get with the program and stop politicizing a global issue.
Random programming one, but some of the changes in C++20 are terrible and do not belong in the language. I will die on the hill of just because something is easier to learn/work with doesn’t make it better.
Yes. OS Security. A bunch of “don’t do that or you’ll learn why” stuff.
Have I been right on all of my positions? Not yet.
Yet.
