• eldavi ( eldavi@lemmy.ml ) 
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      9 months ago

      the extent to which the ruling class has convinced us that it’s dangerous is surprising sometimes.

      i learned about marx because my teacher & my father reacted VERY strongly when i asked my teacher who marx was and she called my dad to “warn” him.

      if they had neutral (or maybe even positive) reactions, i probably wouldn’t have bothered to search for him online at the school library.

      • Mahmood Mamdani, father of the newly elected mayor of New York, Zohran Mamdani, shared how he was introduced to Marx:

        I was in my room. There was a knock at the door. Two gentlemen in trench coats and hats said, “FBI.” I thought, “Wow, just like on television.” They sat down. They were there to find out why I had gone – because this turned out to be big – it is after Montgomery that King organized his march on Selma. They wanted to know who had influenced me. After one hour of probing, the guy said, “Do you like Marx?”

        I said, “I haven’t met him.”

        Guy said, “No, no, he’s dead.”

        “Wow, what happened?”

        “No, no, he died long ago.”

        I thought the guy Marx had just died. So then, “Why are you asking me if he died long ago?”

        “No, he wrote a lot. He wrote that poor people should not be poor.”

        I said, “Sounds amazing.”

        I’m giving you a sense of how naïve I was. After they left, I went to the library to look for Marx. So that was my introduction to Karl Marx.

        https://www.warscapes.com/conversations/conversation-mahmood-mamdani

      • The Soviet Union, Cuba, DPRK, Laos, PRC, Vietnam, and former non-USSR socialist states in Europe such as the GDR were and are all examples of Marxism-Leninism being applied to establish socialist society. What makes you think the Soviet Union isn’t an example? At a fundamental level, Marxist-Leninists seek to establish an economy where public ownership is the principle aspect, and the working classes are in control of the state. At a more detailed level, however, this can look very different depending on local levels of development, history, and unique material conditions.