• Aceticon ( Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      The UK is somewhere in between most of Europe and the US when it comes to moralism.

      In most of Continental Europe “if you’re not harming anybody, we don’t care”, but Britain’s period of increasing moral openness just lasted 3 decades with only enough steam to make same sex marriage legal, and then stopped and turned weirdly transphobic. Further, the moralistic vein of their society never really stopped, it’s just that for some limited domains (pretty much just homosexuality) it’s unfashionable for the middle class to be openly moralistic, but just about any other sexual behavior which isn’t common will get criticized even in newspapers, often by the very upper middle class people who call themselves “liberal” because they’re non-judgemental about homosexuality.

      Having live in Britain as well as in Northern and Southern Europe, British society stands out for be more judgemental, prejudiced and moralistic that even Southern Europe (which far less moralistic today than 4 decades ago and unlike Britain isn’t ultra selective about the things it’s non-judgemental about).

    • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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      Pretty much - I’ve already seen it happening for months now. The title says something like “best friend” or “friend’s sister” or some shit like that and then the dialogue in the porn is between step siblings. Wonder if that’ll be enough to skirt the issue.

  • Peers agreed by a majority of one to ban videos and images depicting relationships that would not be allowed in real life.

    If they arent blood related stepsiblings then its not illegal is it? Strictly speaking even actual incest isnt illegal in most places if it doesnt lead to children or marriage. Still weird af of course, but not necessarily something that the government should get involved in unless its abusive.

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    The content is said to “normalise the sexualisation of children, promote the idea that children consent, and fuel demand for real child abuse material”

    So academia supports this? Oh we’re just curtailing freedom on vibes again?

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      Yeah I worry they are putting the cart out before the horse. Imho “barely legal” (porn featuring people who look or are portrayed as barely of the legal age of consent) porn being as widespread and popular as it is, isn’t the cause of sexual violence against children and adolescents, but rather a culture of adults that sexualise minors and would perpetrate that violence anyway are the reason the content is as popular as it is.

      Ofc I have even less data to go off of than the authors of this bill but this has vibes of “video games cause violence” all over again

  • brognak ( brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    I am still 100% convinced this whole trend was a self sustaining accident/idiocy.

    There was probably an actual organic desire for this kind of content so it was made. Ime most of the content doesn’t even try and make good on the title and it’s just regular ass porn, so it ends up getting traction, cus porn. This leads to content creators making more of it since for the most part all you have to do is have like 2-3 throw away lines in the scene and a risque title so it’s free to throw another genre label on there.

    Now a feedback loop exists. More of the content is made because it gets bigger numbers so more content gets made.

    All because it isn’t really mutually exclusive with any other genre, you can slap it into basically anything for free and attract a wider audience. I suspect the actual amount of people searching for specifically incest-y content is really low n

  • Phoenixz ( phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Unpopular opinion:

    It’s porn, it’s escapist fantasy and like most porn, it touches on fringes. There is LOADS of popular porn out there that can only best be described as “rapey” and a lot of people (women included) are into it.

    FFS, everyone and their mother knows incest is bad, we all know rape is bad and I honestly don’t believe that anyone would watch an incest video and suddenly think “well I have a son/daughter too!”

    It’s a fantasy and with all fantasies, some like it, some don’t. As long as fantasies stay fantasies , can we please just let people be human beings? Can we please stop being the thought police?

    The teacher and student? Very illegal in the real world, that’s why we have porn! The “I’m stuck under the bed!” porn is rape porn, hell, most porn can technically be explained as rape, and we all watch it.

    The problem here is that anytime anyone speaks up, its immediately “oh so you like to rape your daughter!”. No I don’t, I just think that we should leave people be people and we should not censor all thoughts as certain people are trying to do here. I think people should be allowed to have sex fantasies in their heads about anyone, as long as those remain there.

    Most people have no problem with this staying in their heads and I don’t think we should outlaw porn just because rape happens in the real world, when porn is not the cause.

    Do not think for a second that it will stop with this, they’re just starting here because it’s an easy target. Soon it will be “oh so you’re one of those rapists that likes porn, huh?” and then all porn will be banned.