Jordan Lund is NOT a good human being.


Right, the Gaza Genocide isn’t US Politics… Those aren’t US made bombs being dropped with US politicians cheering them on and US diplomatic support and denial allowing the Genocide to continue. Nothing could be more salient to US politics than the ways in which the Palestinian Genocide drove us to war.
What a joke.
I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.
For the record the first article about corporate complicity in the Palestinian Genocide includes references to many major US corporations, thus making it drirectly relevant to US politics at an immediate level.
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42581206
The second article about US media’s complicity in coverage over the Palestinian Genocide… do I need to actually explain how that is related to US politics? Of course it is?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579919
The third article is relevant because the US and Israel have been intimately interwoven in their escalation of Genocide and breaking of international norms, if a Genocide begins in Lebanon it will be a DIRECT continuation of US politics applied first in Israel and next in Lebanon. I mean what the hell we are fighting a war RIGHT NOW and this is the biggest escalation possible IN THAT WAR. How is that NOT related to US politics???
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42579757
https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-replicating-its-gaza-war-tactics-lebanon
The fourth article about there being no ceasefire in Gaza, I don’t even know how to go about this one, om, it is politics involving primarily the US here? The US is the single most relevant political actor capable of changing this situation? How is this not US politics? Where can you cleanly draw a line here?
https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630002
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/there-no-ceasefire-gaza
The US is directly and intimately complicit in the Palestinian Genocide, you cannot in good conscience nor with logical consistency separate US politics cleanly from this issue, if you wanted that to be possible you should have spoken up louder against the Genocide before, now it is too late to fumble with broken stilted arguments like this. The Palestinian Genocide is US Politics, period, end of story.
Can we finally stop pretending that what we have been witnessing in Gaza over the past 22 months is a “war,” a “conflict,” or even a “humanitarian crisis”? Many of the world’s leading human rights and humanitarian groups – including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and Doctors Without Borders – agreed months ago that what is being livestreamed to our phones on a daily basis is indeed a genocide.
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Trump’s Republican allies in the House and Senate are even more gung-ho. Forget complicity; Congress is filled with GOP cheerleaders for genocide, from Senators Tom “bounce the rubble in Gaza” Cotton to Lindsey “level the place” Graham. The newest member of the House, Randy Fine, a Republican representative of Florida, has called for the nuking of Gaza and said just days ago that Palestinians in Gaza should “starve away” until the Israeli hostages are all released. (A reminder that incitement to genocide is also a crime under Article III of the Genocide convention.)
But we cannot let Democrats off the hook either. The first 16 months of this mass slaughter unfolded on a Democratic president’s watch. From the get-go, Joe Biden gave Netanyahu and his cabinet of génocidaires everything they needed – 2,000-lb bombs to drop on refugee camps filled with Palestinian children? Check. UN security council vetoes to prevent the passage of resolutions calling for a permanent ceasefire? Check. The burial of internal US government reports warning of war crimes and famine in Gaza? Check.
It wasn’t just Biden. The vast majority of Democrats in Congress spent much of 2024 casting vote after vote to keep arming, funding and whitewashing the mass killing of Palestinian civilians. Even now, in the summer of 2025, seven high-profile Democratic senators were happy to take a smiling photo with Netanyahu, including the Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who claims talk of genocide is antisemitic and says his job “is to keep the left pro-Israel”.
- Mehdi Hasan
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/02/the-us-complicit-genocide-israel-gaza
edit personal DM from goat taunting me for the other thread being locked before I could fully explain myself and get a solid answer from Lemmy World.

Insanity of saying the US fueled, funded, and permitted (with the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA even going so far as to say he will help Israel “do what they need to do”) genocide in Gaza isn’t US politics aside, why the fuck would you name your com “politics” and not allow politics from the hundreds of other countries?
Name your damn com US politics then, and maybe learn about the impacts of US foreign policy and recognize that the imperial hegemonic effects of the USs actions actually are US politics.
JFC that’s a stupid com.
It honestly hurts my brain and I would be more inclined to laugh about it if it didn’t hurt my heart so badly to see discussion of the Palestinian Genocide so clearly silenced by people like Jordan Lund.
In case anyone’s still on the fence re: this guy, a year ago I banned Jordanlund from our transgender comm for linking a Matt Walsh video, mocking people with neo/xeno pronouns. (idk why else someone would post that in a trans community)
He proceeded to ban me from news@lemmy.world in retaliation.
PTB through and through.
They are also on the usa is arming and supporting Israel but not the genocide, thats the Isreali government taking advantage of those poor USA politicians
Deeply unserious, incurious, dull, obtuse self-awarewolf.
https://www.opb.org/news/series/racenw/race-northwest-united-states-jordan-lund-portland/
And despite his politics, he struggles to find sympathy or kinship with the Black Lives Matter marchers who occasionally disrupt his commute home to protest police violence.
omg I read this at the time and then totally memory holed its existence, ty!
Still, Lund said he doesn’t see much racism in his day-to-day life. He’s certainly never experienced it.
“Against me? No. The differentiator I experience is because I’m male. I’ve had a lot of anti-male sentiment. I lost a job because of it. Because somebody didn’t like having talking to a guy. Such is life.”

I am begging jordan to please consider that the problems he runs into are not due to misandry and minorities speaking up too much; it’s almost certainly just his behavior
I’m amazed Diva didn’t instantly turn on you and insult you for replying to her.
i’ve given upvotes to people i have chronic beef with all throughout this thread because Jordan being a problem is a unifying experience. he’s actually factually the first user account i ever blocked on lemmy almost 3 years ago
Jordan is a unifying force because he’s that much of an asshat.
The solution is the same now as it was a year ago: stop participating in .world communities and start contributing your energy to the equivalent communities elsewhere. The entire point of federated threaded discussion boards is to be able to route around damage (or dipshits).
The solution is the same now as it was a year ago: stop participating in .world communities and start contributing your energy to the equivalent communities elsewhere.
This is the way.
every time i read anything about jordan lund it just bums me out. he’s like a king of nothing.
I feel that this situation unfortunately requires escalation and I will be directly contacting Lemmy World mods, I will update with their response.
The lemmy.world admins have been very clear in their actions that they approve of jordanlund.
Shame on them then, if they take no action on Jordan Lund they are an embarrassment to the entire Fediverse and they diminish our community here by occupying the spot as the largest political community while harboring such heinous and unpopular, cruel and inaccurate beliefs about the world.
I still think .world is a CIA psyop.
I feel like it would be less well managed if it was actually that to be honest. Like… in other respects the Lemmy.World moderation team seems to be fairly competent and all, I don’t have any particular beef about their competency personally, so in my opinion it is unlikely it is actually a CIA psyop.
Do you think the CIA could even manage to keep a decent server uptime going? I am not so sure, maybe.
Go research Ed Bernays. Or NED. Operations Condor and Gladios. The Pentagon Papers. Julian Assange, Edward Snowden. Room 641A. Yellow Journalism. ETA: 4chan
Meh, back in the day, people accused me of being a CIA psyop just for refusing to support the two-party system. I openly declared my support for third-party candidates during the 2024 elections here on Lemmy, which was not as accepted as it is today. Saying “I hate both parties” wasn’t taken lightly. lol So a lot of people were saying I was CIA psyops, Republican psyops, etc.
But someone having a different opinion than you, and being public about it, and defending it, isn’t how CIA psyops or any psyops would go about it.
I totally think .world admins/mod are short-sided and foolish. But not nearly smart enough to be CIA.
Also, .world is the worst instance in the fediverse, so PTB!
But not nearly smart enough to be CIA.
You do not need to be smart or competent to be in the CIA.
On average I genuinely believe normal community fedi admins are far more competent than the people the CIA tends to hire and hang out with.
For one, CIA picked people are too bigoted and unquestioning of structurally encoded racism to even remotely keep a community stable.
Fair point! But I think Lemmy is so niche and extreme, that even an incompetent CIA operative would be smarter than just posting stuff that gets downvoted right away. If they were psyops, they’d pretend to be part of the mass, then slowly work on changing minds. But even then, I think Lemmy is too small and niche to bother with.
Now that I’ve been on Lemmy long enough and seen the rabid extremisim and stubborness, I don’t think our platform is gonna grow much more. I’ll stick around, but I’ve noticed more and more “regulars” dropping off and leaving.
Like your situation with Jordan. He won’t be disciplined. He won’t change his mind. And as more and more of this platform becomes like that, how long do ya put up with it before you just move on?
I’m the change I wanted to see. I got kicked off .world, so I jumped on another instance the next day, restarted my communities and picked up where I left off.
Most people just don’t give enough of a shit to try to make it work. Most would rather complain than contribute.
So stay strong, friend. Keep contributing, make your own communities, and don’t let the ‘Jordan’s’ silence you.
Yeah. We know.
Yeah, and while the admins say they’re upset with Jordan didn’t do shit other than remove a meaningless title from them
Link of them fully approving here: https://lemmy.world/post/36621226
Ok that is a lot of words that mean nothing when Jordan Lund has been given a position of power again.
World admins are masters of saying lots to say absolutely nothing.
It’s either that or doing good things for the absolutely worst reason. Unironicly also given to jordanlund to do for banning amp links, not because of how terrible they are but because caused issues with their awful mbfc bot
but because caused issues with their awful mbfc bot
OMG that fucking bot. Such a shitshow. Jordan still hasn’t apologized for that fuck-up!
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Yeah, that was one of the first communities I ever blocked after this guy went full reddit and decided to make the “politics@world” community US only.
See you guys next week when our reoccurring character makes his blunder again.
Ah Jordan back to his old tricks I see.
Going against the grain here: YDI.
It’s clear there’s a disagreement on what constitutes US politics. It’s clear that jordanlund takes a more “US explicit/internal politics” approach, versus your “the US supports Israel, so whatever Israel does genocide-wise is also US politics”. I can understand your position here, but given that the distinction is being made to keep the contents of a community focused on a specific subject, I fear your interpretation widens the definition of “US politics” so much it becomes largely meaningless, as the overlap with the world news community becomes extremely large. If Mexico arrests some drug baron, does this also belong in US politics since a lot of US policies affect the cartels as well? In jordanlunds position, a narrower definition is taken to focus the posts subject-wise.
Regardless, it’s okay to disagree on things, especially those as trivial as “which community should this article be posted in”. On this matter, jordanlund has taken what is basically the mildest of actions possible: a simple message redirecting you to the world news community, so it can be posted there as they deemed it should go there instead.
But instead of just posting it there, you’ve posted another 5 articles with the same kind of link to US politics, which jordanlund obviously also removed. Despite repeated reminders to post in world news instead, you kept going and this eventually landed you a short temp ban.
I disagree with your assessment that you’re being “silenced”, since you were asked to post in a different com with similar levels of engagement. Your visibility isn’t suffering because of that. Posts with the same viewpoints, but a more direct link to US politics were kept up (and jordanlund even complimented you on it, saying it was a very good post). Additionally, jordanlund has expressed very similar viewpoints as your own regarding US complicity in the Gaza genocide and assorted Israeli warcrimes. Your only real disagreement seems to be the definition of US politics (and as a consequence: what goes in which community), but there doesn’t seem to be any dispute regarding the facts or even a meaningful difference in views on the genocide. Frankly, you calling them a bad human being because of such a frankly petty disagreement seems like an overreaction to me.
I think it’s fine to discuss what constitutes US politics and perhaps jordanlund should also further clarify the rules to remove the “politics” ambiguity. But the actions from the modlog are consistent with their explanation of the rules, you were very mildly handled and even in this thread jordanlund has managed to stay (mostly) civil towards you.
Not every mod is perfect, and jordanlund certainly has made their share of mistakes before, but in this case I’d lean more towards YDI than PTB.
I’m split on this one.
On the one hand, I’m no fan of the mod and I support Palestine.
On the other hand, that comm is like a spam folder for political bullshit. It’s all about “Chuck Schumer SLAMS Trump” or “What AOC Did At The Democrat Dinner Will Shock You!”… Just let the garbage be garbage. Post in a better comm.
On the other hand, that comm is like a spam folder for political bullshit. It’s all about “Chuck Schumer SLAMS Trump” or “What AOC Did At The Democrat Dinner Will Shock You!”
No disagreement that it’s a trash community with trash content, but it might be worth asking if the community is shit because the moderator is making it shit
Dude I love watching a turbo dickhead succumb to their ego and make enemies of people who otherwise would have no reason to give a shit, it’s genuinely so satisfying
Less satisfying when there’s absolutely no consequences to those being an intentional massive asshole
Nobody tends to mind mod / admin biases until it affects them personally, me included. Nobody wants to change it, it just keeps getting shifted to “oh, you can’t rely on that guy? then move over to this community, you can totally rely on this other guy”.
Don’t you guys realize mods and admins are better and smarter than you guys? That’s why you shouldn’t have access to see the votes like they can, that’s why it’s you who needs to leave a community instead of just being able to opt to different moderation, that’s why they can call you out for behaving a certain way and then ignore it when people who support their stance do it.
News and politics tends to attract opinionated participation and the people who want to manipulate or constrain them to their own biases get attracted to moderating those communities. My advice is to ignore the masks people put on and look at how, how many, and under what biases they are actually moderating under.











