• Saapas ( Saapas@piefed.zip ) 
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    6 months ago

    I mean with Trump now, surely Obama comparatively seems great? Not a saint but isn’t it easy to see why those relatives would miss him?

        • Nope. I don’t really get that shortsighted mentality of missing the lesser evil.

          Evil is evil regardless and it should never be missed just because you weren’t a victim of their evil deeds. That’s how you abandon your solidarity

          • PugJesus ( PugJesus@piefed.social ) 
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            Nope. I don’t really get that shortsighted mentality of missing the lesser evil.

            “I don’t understand why someone might miss when things were less bad!”

            Tracks.

                • Because there are people who don’t have a shortsighted, reactionary mentality.

                  The degrees of how bad is entirely contextual. And part of the context of seeing the lesser evil as “better” involves limiting the scope to a false dichotomy.

                  Being stabbed is better than being shot, but regardless of which option you’re still fucking being injured.

              • PugJesus ( PugJesus@piefed.social ) 
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                Bad is bad. Less bad is less bad.

                Having family members concerned about the level of uncertainty involved in their immigration proceedings was bad, as no one, but especially not people who’ve been in the country and established lives, should be treated as illegal for their region of residence. Having family members fucking deported for it because of changes in Federal immigration enforcement policy is fucking worse.

                Inflicting more suffering on the oppressed so you can feel ‘pure’ isn’t solidarity, it’s solipsism.

                • Miss me with your uneducated, centrist bullshit.

                  We get it, you weren’t affected personally, so you don’t give a shit about the lives of those that were already being affected. We get it. You have no solidarity.

                  And FYI, we aren’t the ones inflicting the suffering so nice try shifting that blame.

            • Nothing.

              Better is contextual. The lesser is technically better, sure, but it still falls below the minimum standards.

              Being stabbed is “better” than being shot but regardless of which, you’re still fucking injured.

                • Sure but it also makes me understand that people lack solidarity if they miss a time when their comfort came at the expense of the oppressed simply because they weren’t the one personally being oppressed.

                  Just because life was more comfortable before doesn’t mean I miss it, because I have solidarity with those who were oppressed for that comfort to have been possible. I would never want those times to return just because I personally benefit from it, thus I do not miss those times.

                  I also do not miss those times because I understand that those times are what allowed the ones we are currently living in to manifest. The systems, institutions, and cultural norms of those times are what led to today.

                  I do not miss those times. I yearn for times where those things did not come at the expense of others while enabling evil to continue to consolidate power and disenfranchise my brothers and sisters of the working class.

  • iamthetot ( iamthetot@piefed.ca ) 
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    6 months ago

    “I agree, he wasn’t perfect and was certainly a product of a broken system. However, nothing you’ve said has changed my missing him, nor my believing that he was infinitely better than Trump, even if not perfect.”

  • corsicanguppy ( corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 
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    The list of people who let Perfect be the enemy of Good grows at the end of every American school year. Republicans LOVE single-issue voters since they’re easy to manipulate. Source: 2024 election.

  • Someonelol ( Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    We’re looking at him through the lens of 2026. At least he pushed for the Affordable Care Act and repealing of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. The man wasn’t a saint but he sure as shit is better than what we have now. Yes I’d rather have a socialist like Bernie Sanders but this is all we have unfortunately and if I had to make a choice between the two administrations I’d go with Obama 11 times out of 10.

  • PugJesus ( PugJesus@piefed.social ) 
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    The sanctioning of ‘double-tap’ drone strikes, and, by a fairly recent interpretation of international law, enabling Saudi atrocities in Yemen.

    What else does he have?