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not_IO ( not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to Programmer Humor@programming.devEnglish · 6 months ago

tech never works for long

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not_IO ( not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to Programmer Humor@programming.devEnglish · 6 months ago
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  • rem26_art ( rem26_art@fedia.io ) 
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    swap out those mechanicals windows for mechanical linux and then we’ll talk

    • Thorry ( Thorry@feddit.org ) 
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      I use Arch BTW.

      Like just huge arches instead of windows or even doors, Arch is all you need.

      • SeductiveTortoise ( SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ) 
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        I thought Emacs is all you need?

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        • Morphit  ( Morphit@feddit.uk ) 
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          Incorrect, you need

          • SeductiveTortoise ( SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ) 
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            https://youtu.be/urcL86UpqZc

            According to this documentary, you’re wrong!

      • frank ( frank@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        I never thought about how a physical arch relates to physical windows. Interesting.

    • Opisek ( Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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      I am more of a hydraulic Linux person myself

  • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor ( AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social ) 
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    In Spanish, we have a saying: “En casa de herrero, cuchara de palo”.
    A rough translation would be “in the blacksmith’s house you’ll find wood spoons”. It’s not a new thing, it’s been like that since ancient times.

    • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Is that the same thing? The impression I get is that OPs post is about the IT worker actively distrusting smart tech. While I assume your example is more that the blacksmith doesn’t bother with making metal spoons for himself and using what ever he had already, which would be more comparable to a network engineer still using the ISPs shitty router.

      • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor ( AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social ) 
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        We use it when, for any reason, a person who could easily use something related to their field, doesn’t use it. What it means is that if someone who could be using something because they know how it works, isn’t using it, there must be a reason.

        • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          Ahh, the impression I got is that one makes it sound like they are avoiding it because they can’t be bothered to while the other actively avoids it because its bad.

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            I think that is the most “correct” interpretation of it. Maybe they’re saying that it’s been bent over time.

        • djmikeale ( djmikeale@feddit.dk ) 
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          We have a similar saying in Denmark, something like “shoemakers kids always have holes in their shoes” but in this case it’s more about that the people in the profession don’t prioritize their own craft. I’ve seen this with electricians where whole house is done but electrical sockets aren’t installed but for IT I think it’s more about distrust towards developers (takes one to know one)

      • Techno-rat ( tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Wooden spoons are better for cooking with cast iron pots and pans, which a blacksmith, being knowledgeable about metal, would be vey aware of.

        Just as the it person is way more aware of the pitfalls of smart tech than your average person

        • Auli ( Auli@lemmy.ca ) 
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          Sure but what us the downside? It us a huge field with everything from local to requiring the cloud. You can’t blanket it all together.

        • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          I thought it was just teflon that is too weak to handle metal tools.

          • Techno-rat ( tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            Metal tools also scrape the bottom lining that forms over time off, which is a big no no when cooking with cast iron.

            • harmbugler ( harmbugler@piefed.social ) 
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              Are you sure? I’ve often heard chainmail recommended to clean cast iron.

              • Techno-rat ( tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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                P sure (but not entirely) that thats for when you purposely want to remove the lining, fx for resale, to make it look brand new

                Havent personally heard chainmail reccomended tho, mostly heard of steel sponges, chainmail sounds way cooler tho lol

                • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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                  Depends how hard you scrape. Steel sponges with a lot of force will take you down to metal, chainmail might work nicely for cleaning stuck on food without damaging the coating too much but I haven’t used it.

                  Metal tools you need to really scrape at it to remove the coating, I don’t think it is something you could do by mistake.

    • wheezy ( wheezy@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Yeah but I doubt that saying has ever been used to mean the blacksmith thinks metal spoons are bad. Right?

      It’s worth sharing but this post is more about the software engineer knows how much shit is spying on you.

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      That ks for sharing this, this is fascinating.

      Maybe the underlying rule is: the more you know about something, the more you are aware of its flaws, making the alternatives you know less about more attractive?

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        I think there are definitely different applications of the phrase and different versions of it.

        As someone that does a “traditional” trade. I do work in leathercraft. My friends and family all have nice pieces I’ve made them. I’ve literally yet to make myself more than a belt. And it’s just a piece I didn’t like enough when it was done. So I remade another for the person I meant to give it to.

        Not that I wouldn’t like a nice piece for myself. But, it’s just a lot more fun to make something for someone else.

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    Homeassistant is cool though. Also most of my stuff would work without it, they just works better with it.

    • flying_sheep ( flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ) 
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      None of the devices I bought for it talk to the internet! Home assistant can control and even update the Shellys completely over the local network.

      • Owl ( BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz ) 
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        As it should be

        • kittenzrulz123 ( kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          Remember Home assistant =/= smart home nonsense

          I dont need some AI assistant to automatically manage my thermostat, I just want to be able to control it all using my own local server.

  • CorrectAlias ( CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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    I agree when it comes to most “smart” home devices. However, I wired an ESP32 to my heat pump for remote control and automation, which has been absolutely fantastic. Also, I use a ton of ZigBee and zwave, since those are not “smart” by themselves and are local-only.

    It’s the cloud bullshit that always breaks and spies on users that I hate.

    • Midnitte ( Midnitte@beehaw.org ) 
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      Home Assistant 💯

  • als ( als@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    • hairynipple ( hairynipple@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Well, you shouldn’t keep a gun next to it, unless you want the printer to take ahold of it and rob you.

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    The fact these companies can release a $200 router or a $1000 smartphone and completely stop all security updates after only a few years is insane.

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      It should be regulated similar to how cars are regulated - with mandatory service and spare parts for many years.

    • teuto ( teuto@lemmy.teuto.icu ) 
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      Exactly why WAPs, Switches, Firewalls, and Modems should all be separate devices

  • Xerxos ( Xerxos@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I always loved the saying, “The ‘S’ in IoT stands for security.”

  • Resonosity ( Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Home Assistant is a free and open source alternative for home automation. Don’t have to completely give up the future.

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    i’ve worked with highly competent programmes and sysadmins whose houses are entirely connected. they do exist.

  • Aceticon ( Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Exactly.

    My first personal e-mail way back in the 90s was with my ISP. Then I changed ISPs and saw the problem with that. So I moved to Yahoo.

    Some years later, in the 00s I just decided to get my own, paid for, Internet domain and have my e-mail there, even though I could’ve carried on using Yahoo or get Google Mail (very popular amongst techies back then) for free. The main reason was that I realized I must made sure the e-mail address was MINE, not actually owned by somebody else with me allowed to use it under their conditions.

    Twenty years later and guess it was pretty wise to not have my e-mail in the claws of “Definitelly Do Evil” Google.

    Experience using and living with Tech, mainly once your understanding of it reaches the level of understanding systemic elements, naturally informs ones choices in Tech, and that often means chosing something else than the mass marketed “popular” stuff that’s designed to lock you in, sell you stuff or sell your attention to others and eavesdrop on you and sell your data.

  • psud ( psud@aussie.zone ) 
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    Following computer security stuff makes every smart thing suspicious

    • Diurnambule ( Diurnambule@jlai.lu ) 
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      As they should be.

  • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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    The dev I know who’s most into home automation using cloud services has also fallen the hardest for “AI will build all systems and nothing will go wrong with that”. Honestly, I should become a cyber criminal in this climate.

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    https://biggaybunny.tumblr.com/post/166787080920/tech-enthusiasts-everything-in-my-house-is-wired

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮  ( Kolanaki@pawb.social ) 
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    Good, solid state tech should last basically forever unless something wild happens.

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    “no smart home crap” except smart home “crap” can be quite secure today… but please go on.

    (80% of my smart home “crap” runs firmware I compiled, communicates only with a local server and have no internet access)

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