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inari ( inari@piefed.zip )  to Linux@lemmy.mlEnglish · 7 months ago

Framework says it's selling more Linux laptops than Windows as new Laptop 13 Pro sells out first 7 batches

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Framework says it's selling more Linux laptops than Windows as new Laptop 13 Pro sells out first 7 batches

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inari ( inari@piefed.zip )  to Linux@lemmy.mlEnglish · 7 months ago
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Framework will charge you extra if you choose to configure the laptop with Windows, while Ubuntu comes free, thanks to being open-source.
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  • scytale ( scytale@piefed.zip ) 
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    A lot of people who are aware of Framework are linux users, and the average non-techie user probably doesn’t even know they exist.

    Also:

    Framework calls the Laptop 13 Pro “A laptop for Linux” in its official marketing, adding that it “is designed and tested for Linux compatibility from the ground up”.

    If you market your product to linux users, surely you will attract a lot of linux users.

    • Hanrahan ( hanrahan@slrpnk.net ) 
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      i had a whinge in the comment section of a recent ArsTechnica article where they reviewed a bunch of Laptops and not one from Framework or Tuxedo haha

      I have my eye on a Framework Pro 13 but really don’t need it, i mostly desktop. I don’t Laptop much and just use an old MS Surgace Pro7+ with LMDE installed.

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        Ars is weirdly pro-windows sometimes , in the comments. I don’t read them as much as I used to.

    • LincolnsDogFido ( LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Just let good news be good news brother. We need more of it in the world right now.

  • HiddenLayer555 ( HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Not surprising, the venn diagram of people who would buy a Framework (or even know it exists) and people who would choose an open source OS (or even know they exist) overlaps quite a bit, I imagine.

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    does not surprise me. Framework appeals to users, who love DIY. The same applies for Linux.

    If you‘re not into Linux/DIY, MacBook gives you a much better offering for the same price. If you‘re a masochist wanting Windows, you simply have smooth other options for lower price.

    • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      If you like to DIY why are you using a framework instead of a briefcase PC?

  • diaphragm w*rkplace ( ApertureUA@lemmy.today ) 
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    Company when marketing works

  • treadful ( treadful@lemmy.zip ) 
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    I’m so happy Framework appears to be doing well.

    I’ve already replaced the keyboard of my 5yo OG 13 and plan to Frankenstein this thing as long as I can. I secretly hope the mainboard fails so I’m forced to upgrade.

    Maybe after RAM prices recover…

    • sunstoned ( sunstoned@lemmus.org ) 
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      Be careful what you wish for… My i7-1260p failed a few months ago.

      I will say though, upgrading to an ai 340 is a serious quality of life upgrade in terms of gpu and battery life. Even the NPU is useful now with the latest drivers and kernel modules.

  • Aceticon ( Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Framework computers aren’t really targeted at the average consumer.

    It makes sense that the kind of people who value hardware which they can easily and freely maintain and upgrade also value software which they can easily and freely maintain and upgrade.

    For sure Linux being a free option vs Windows being a paid for one also helps.

    • PolarKraken ( PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Tbh the shocker for me was people buying Framework laptops with Windows on them at all…? Wut?

    • ArcaneSlime ( ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Though one would expect such technically inclined users to install the OS themselves. When I bought my 16 I bought “no OS” because while Fedora (which I knew would be installed) was an option I wanted FDE and so I chose to install it myself. It’s possible many of these were first time linux users who wanted the savings but also the ease of buying with a pre-installed OS.

  • Ada ( ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Yay, yet another tech company funding racists and transphobes is doing well :/

    • The D Quuuuuill ( Quill7513@slrpnk.net ) 
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      i dislike how those of us who aren’t okay with this are just supposed to get on board because “big tent.” nazis operate by getting their foot in the door and acting respectable. then after a little bit, suddenly they’ve taken the whole place over. it’s what they do with bars, it’s what they do with music scenes, it’s what they’ve done with past open source projects, it’s what they did with the Reform Party in the united states. i need people to stop making room for nazis as long as they behave themselves

    • houjou ( houjou@jlai.lu ) 
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      Could I have some context on this please?

      • halcyoncmdr ( halcyoncmdr@piefed.social ) 
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        One of several open source projects they’re helping fund happens to be run by a person like that. They’re funding is because of the open source project, but some people are very vocal that they’d rather the project not exist at all, and post about it every chance they get.

        It’s like how some vegans can’t help but tell you loudly and at every opportunity that they’re vegan. Or some of the more insufferable Linux users in general. Venn diagram is probably a near circle with that linux group actually.

        FOSS is a pretty small community in the grand scheme, if you avoided any project run by an objectionable individual, you couldn’t run much of anything.

        There’s been plenty of posts about this particular issue all over if you go looking for it. I’d recommend doing your own research on whether you have a problem with it, and not rely on just a couple random commenters here, myself included.

      • Ada ( ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        They support and fund DHH

        • Meldrik ( meldrik@lemmy.wtf ) 
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          You mean Rails World?

          • Ada ( ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            Same guy, but no, I was referring to Omarchy and DHH himself.

      • Meldrik ( meldrik@lemmy.wtf ) 
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        Read this blog post:

        • https://crimier.github.io/posts/Framework-Omarchy/

        Framework does not sponsor Omarchy. They sponsor Hyprland, which is mentioned in the blog post and Rails World, a conference that DHH is part of.

        List of projects sponsored by Framework:

        • https://frame.work/dk/en/blog/framework-sponsorships
      • Radieschen ( radieschen@slrpnk.net ) 
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        Gardiner Bryant did a video on this: https://video.4d2.org/w/rPMMDnLBA4kVmScBD6w9K5

      • eleijeep ( eleijeep@piefed.social ) 
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        https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986

        https://crimier.github.io/posts/Framework-Omarchy/

  • thingsiplay ( thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Another sign its The Year Of Linux. Yes I said it. Someone had to!

    • whoisearth ( whoisearth@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Can it also be the summer of George? Lol

  • HulkSmashBurgers ( HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com ) 
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    I recently bought a used alienware x14 r1 from a co-worker but if I hadn’t I would have picked up one of these if I knew about the company. The configurability (and upgradability) is very appealing to me.

    One of these will be my next laptop I think.

  • HubertManne ( HubertManne@piefed.social ) 
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    windows is extra no?

  • giacomo ( giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    is the hardware different somehow?

    • Quibblekrust ( Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club ) 
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      Different than what? You mean between Linux and Windows? No, but you can have them pre-install an OS of your choice.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ( fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      The chassis is the only real difference. The boards are all compatible. The core 300 series Intel board might be exclusive to it for now, but they said it’s compatible with the old chassis so it’s just that they just don’t offer the board separately yet. No wait they have a listing for it so I’m just blind. https://frame.work/products/laptop13pro-mainboard-intel-ultra-3?v=FRANJZ0007

      Did they ever post sales figures for no OS vs Windows? You can’t assume no OS = Linux, but considering the target demographic I bet 80% of them planned on using Linux on it.

    • megopie ( megopie@beehaw.org ) 
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      Same exact computer, they just don’t charge you for the windows license. So it’s a bit cheaper.

  • this_1_is_mine ( this_1_is_mine@lemmy.ml ) 
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    GOOD GOOOD!

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    This has more to do with the Windows frameworks costing an extra $140. I’m sure a lot of people will just buy it with Linux and then ‘obtain’ Windows on their own.

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