• Silver Needle ( silverneedle@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Maybe everyone should be barred from owning a business. Like, let’s end the present state of things. Just don’t make it dependent on cultural/racial categories lol

    Also this comic doesn’t prescribe a stance on Chanel’s beliefs. That’s funny.

    • The comic does, you’re only missing the very clear subtext here because you don’t have the context for the joke.

      As a fashion designer, Coco Chanel’s perspective on accessorizing is, to paraphrase, “look at yourself in the mirror before you go out and pick an accessory to take off and leave at home.”

      The fact that they’re being encouraged to disregard a Nazi fashionista’s signature accessory advice and to be “extra” instead is a very clear rejection of Chanel’s beliefs.

    • Also this comic doesn’t prescribe a stance on Chanel’s beliefs. That’s funny.

      Do you honestly need the comic to explicitly spell out their stance and/or hold your hand through reading between the lines to figure it out yourself? I think this is more of a reading comprehension problem rather than a failure on the artist’s part, no offense.

    • vithigar ( vithigar@lemmy.ca ) 
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      The comic flippantly disregards Chanel’s advice re: accessories based on the premise that because she was a Nazi collaborator her opinions, and those influenced by them, can and should be ignored.

      If that is too nuanced for you to be able to determine a stance then there’s no hope for you.

      • Silver Needle ( silverneedle@lemmy.ca ) 
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        based on the premise that because she was a Nazi collaborator her opinions, and those influenced by them, can and should be ignored

        Mao said that I should shit when I need to. Should I now hold my shit in because Mao made crazed mistakes or was emblematic of a movement that was not exactly comfortable to those in the states and most of europe? What a stupid fucking line of reasoning.

        If that is too nuanced for you to be able to determine a stance then there’s no hope for you.

        Regard the reply to your first paragraph. I made it even more “nuanced”, bullshit appeal anyway.

          • Silver Needle ( silverneedle@lemmy.ca ) 
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            I never said that I agreed or disagreed. How you read any disagreement or agreement into my statement is beyond me and whether or not I agree is not at all a relevant point that needs to be brought up. The author’s position is “pretty clear” because the comic is posted in liberal spaces where virtually everyone dislikes Hitler. Social context makes it obvious, but it’s not at all strictly obvious from the logic of the joke and hinges mostly on how “you look great” is interpreted. I point that out and people lose their shit because they interpret messages anywhich way they feel is comfortable and when they’re not able to categorise a statement, potentially because it is rather neutral but contains structured statements in regards to the content of the post, it just makes it seem hostile to them when it’s not in its content.