I’m hype for the steam frame. I want an index upgrade so bad.
This is more of a side-grade. I was hoping for an actual Index 2.
I’m glad it isn’t Index 2. The frame seems way more accessible.
Yeah, dont get me wrong, its nice to see another device in the inside-out space (to avoid fucking Meta), but I think its going to be too expensive to compete with Meta on the main stage.
But I would also have liked to see a takeover of the high end again, to see Valve push the limits.
I hope you’re underestimating the number of people who want vr but refuse to buy a quest because of meta.
I guess valve will decide what comes next when they have an idea for how the frame does. At least the hype makes it sound like it could sell well.
Yea, I see why they have done it, its a good move! But I still want an insane high end headset :D
A lot of us are tired of high end BS no one can afford and highly proprietary stuff. Hollow Knight is the best game I’ve played in a long, long time and it could have been played with my 10+ year old midrange computer vs the updated one which was quieter for sure but didn’t feel like much of an upgrade given how unoptimized AAA games are now.
Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise and we might see some actual game engine optimizations that don’t expect hardware to keep getting better to perform. Plenty of games that were previously seen as a no go are now targeting the steam deck, which makes them more playable overall in every system.
Edit: my point: more sales = more interest = better optimization = better graphics at a lower entry point.
Steam Frame is not going to be the entry point you think it is.
Depends on what’s important to you I guess. My Index is collecting dust, mostly because it’s heavy and fiddling with the cables always killed immersion for me.
Yea, its a good alternative, albeit more expensive, to Meta’s Quest devices. I’ll pick one up, but I do want to see Valve target the high-end again and push the VR space like they did with the Index.
As long as they do that with a wireless version, I will splurge on that as well, I am sure :D
I sure, if/when they do an Index 2 it’ll be wireless optional at least. They’ve already developed the tech for it. I don’t see any reason it wouldn’t be included with the “no compromises” headset.
I thought that is what it was going to be, both tracking options in a next-level headset!
I’m willing to bet it isn’t an Index upgrade. That was an absolute top end VR HMD with no compromises. If you’re able to run it, with the space for it, then this isn’t going to top it. The resolution is lower, and the tracking is internal (which seems to be fine, but not as good if you can do lighthouses instead).
The only parts that are upgrades, I think, is being able to do things standalone without a connection to a computer, and being wireless (pros and cons).
The index’s resolution kind of sucks at 1440x1600.The steamframe is better at 2160x2160. The index is kind of potato vision IMO. The really high quality tracking from light houses is all the index has.
I thought the Index was higher than that.
I had an original Vive though. I’ve used an Index, and it looks mostly totally fine in comparison. It definitely doesn’t suck, but higher is almost always better. Notably though, the Frame will not be pushing this resolution everywhere. It’ll only be where you’re looking, but that’s pretty much fine, if not ideal. Using extra energy and creating more heat to render detail we can’t perceive isn’t good, especially for something mounted to your face.
I’m mostly stoked about this new ARM support. Gaming hardware is going to see a big shift I suspect
And the next shift will be when they use ARM for the Steam Deck 2 once FEX has a lot of games/quirks worked out
I dont think there are any arm socs that are faster than the current steam deck
The M2 is like twice the performance
Apple really does have a crazy hardware division. I wish their software was anywhere near as appealing. They could do a good job of kicking Qualcomm into actually making something useful if they chose to license their M series chips
Their experience with Mac clones in the 1990s guarantees that will never happen.
Yeah thats fair.
I would probably bet that the next steam deck will be made by AMD or Intel unless something major changes in 2028. The new Intel CPUs are super power efficient, and the AMD CPUs later this year are planned to be similar.
I think I’m gonna buy this second hand this time.
I’ve always bought valve HW new and even preordered most of them, but in the current financial climate, I think I’m gonna wait a bit.
I do have a wifi7 access point already wired with this in mind, though.
Doesn’t it come with its own WiFi access point dongle thingy?
The dongle itself is WiFi 6. You need a WiFi 7 AP to use it without the dongle.
The dongle operates in the 6GHz band. It’s not necessarily WiFi 6, AFAIK.
Where was it confirmed that you’d need a WiFi 7 AP if you’re not using the dongle? The WiFi 7 standard doesn’t even need to come with 6Ghz (which is really stupid and confusing) so you could have WiFi 7 and still be limited to 2.4 / 5Ghz.
You’re right about 6ghz. I misunderstood that bit.
It does.
I’m dying to get back into VR, have around 150 VR games i’d like to get back into with controllers that aren’t drift prone.
For those of us that didn’t follow VR, which controllers are drift prone.
From a non-VR perspective, the switch controller I own suck and drift. Is it that bad as well on that front?
I’m talking Valve Index controllers.
@123 @FreeBooteR69
Switch controllers ar notorious for stick drift. Newer ones using hall effect are much better.During the entire time I followed the hardware, Nintendo refused to acknowledge the issue and even only replaced them on countries that brought meaningful legal action to them. When you say newer ones do you mean Nintendo or other manufacturers? I still seem to only find hall effect ones from third parties on our poor excuse of a search engine (google).
@123 I meant other manufacturers. For example the new Steam controller is using TMR technology.
I never was very hyped about VR, but the Steam Deck has liberated me from my office chair, and I suspect the frame will be an extension of this freedom for me. As soon as I can pre-order one, I will. I’ve been saving my money for this thing since the first announcement.
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