Could the USA please stop sending their raw sewage to other countries?
Apparently we’re just adding to the shit pile that’s already there.
I honestly wonder if american white supremacists would consider Portuguese people to be white.
Historically, even the “whiteness” of Irish was not always a thing in the US.
Historically, whiteness doesn’t exist.
Biologically whiteness does not exist. Culturally, some asshole came up with it and was adopted widely.
Only just recently
“Recently” is a nicely intangible term that can cover some bandwidth of meaning, depending on one’s intention.
The concept of whiteness is roughly 400 years old and a very important part of western cultural history after the middle ages. It exists as a cultural phenomenon that needs to be studied critically.
400 years ago, were Italians (like Bovino) considered white?
Why would that matter? The cultural concept of whiteness began in the 17th century. Definitions and categorizations have shifted but what different makes the exact time when italians were considered white and when not? Different dates would not chance the fact that whiteness is a cultural concept and an important one in modern (as in “post middle ages”, not as in “right now”) western history.
What are you even trying to argue, what is your point?
Rich landowners to get poor Europeans to fight against the newly freed slaves.
The Nazis wouldn’t have qualified by the standards at the time of the American Revolution in Benjamin Franklin’s eyes. Nor even the Italian side of Bovino’s family.
https://www.profmarkbaker.com/blog/2017/6/3/whiteness
I recently read derogatory comments a prominent political leader made about non-white immigrants swarming into our towns and cities and ruining our way of life. It was not Donald Trump, but Benjamin Franklin. And the threatening masses were not Latinos from south of the border, but immigrants from Germany—my ancestors.
“Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind, Peopling of Countries, etc.” – what follows is an excerpt from the 1751 original by Benjamin Franklin
[W]hy should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.
Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.
I have always been labeled as white—by myself and others. Yet not according to Ben Franklin. My ancestors are the exact people he sees as a threat to whites. They came from Germany and swarmed into Franklin’s beloved Pennsylvania. My father is a 6th generation German-American. And even after five generations in Pennsylvania they still spoke German. My grandfather did not learn English until he went to school. According to Franklin I am not white, but a swarthy German—a threat to the ways of whiteness.
It is common place to observe that most of those who complain about immigrants today are part of ethnic groups that once were slandered and scorned in similar ways. Franklin’s comments reinforce that important observation. Important, but not new for me. What was new for me was the realization that there was a time when some people would not have seen me as white.
“White” is a surprisingly mutable term over time as social norms change.
EDIT: I’d also add that you can also watch, over the course of America’s history, “Protestant” morph into “Christian” and then morph into “Judeo-Christian” in political speeches and the like among people complaining about traditional American values being under threat.
American white supremacists

Why is a concentration camp commander type asshole allowed to set foot in Europe?
Deportbthe fucker on arrival
First European Remigration Summit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Bovino
Bovino was born to an Italian American family; his great-grandparents emigrated from Calabria to Pennsylvania in 1909, becoming naturalized citizens in 1927.[3] He has also claimed Cherokee ancestry, but is not a member of any Cherokee tribe.
white nationalist conference in Portugal
The world is a complicated place.
or some people are just idiots
Portuguese people HATE fascists. You don’t even have to be that old in Portugal to remember living under a fascist dictator.
But I guess that doesn’t stop the lunatic fringe.
Also, most Portuguese people look hispanic so I really wonder how an ICE-like force there would go…
Hi from Portugal. Chega (far right) is a major party in parliament right now (1/3) and arguably PSD (another 1/3) has gone far right lately especially on immigration. So we basically have two out of three parties who are far-right.
One of them even talked in parliament about “diluting Portuguese blood” and “keeping Portugal for the Portuguese”, right before they voted to retroactively prevent all the foreigners from being allowed to apply for nationality, and prevent most of the southeast Asians from being eligible to renew their residency.
They are also talking about trying to amend the constitution, not to put anything good in there.
So uh, you sure about that?
Hi, thanks for the info. That’s uhh, concerning.
I guess the far right is on the rise everywhere, but I would have thought it would get quashed when the world saw the US go ass up. Unfortunately, it seems I was wrong.
When I was in Portugal not that long ago, everyone I talked to seemed to be fairly anti-fascist. But maybe there was some selection bias at play.
I don’t know what else to tell you. It sucks watching one’s country slide into fascism. It sucks watching the world slide into fascism. I wish I had better answers than that…
Hey! Another input from a Portuguese (without any meaningful information, just my vibes and feelings): Regarding your selection bias, up until recently I think a lot of people were ashamed of being fascist (I only met one teacher that said “… but our past dictator made Portugal rich!!!”), so most people would pretend to align with anti fascism. Nowadays it has been normalized and people yell bs without hesitating :(
I believe that we will have a fascist revolution before de-fascistizing the country. I just hope I can retire and live peacefully in a non-fascist Portugal :(
(Sorry if my comment is confusing, I just woke up and this post made me sad :( I felt the need to comment)
Thanks for your input. I always appreciate a local’s perspective.
That makes sense I think. It’s a lot like what happened in the US. The fascists were always there, but whether they were ashamed or not they knew better than to be out in the open with it. Now, they feel like they have permission, and its been masks-off.
I hope everyone gets to retire and live peacefully in a non-fascist world. I don’t know how many generations it will be before that’s possible though. I used to believe that good will always prevail, but now I’m under no such pretenses. The universe has no moral bias, unfortunately…
Yeah, it’s not great. Seems to be a trend all over the world :(
It’s planned. Basically a decentralized neo axis. Thats the fun part seem to leave out regarding epstein, he discusses implementing governmental manipulation all starting at brexit… I feel like a damn crazy person (well, more crazy) yelling about this but it seems like everyone’s busy or just ignoring it
These things take time. Unfortunately, life still isn’t bad enough for the average American, so shit can still go on like this without any revolts. And as long as that’s not happening, this shit can still happen to many countries before people learn again.
What happened to all the fascists after the dictatorship? Did they magically disappear?
Apparently they crawled into their holes and hid until they felt like it was safe to come out
to say what “We made our country a shithole, and with our help, you can too!”?
The stupid smile, the stupid fing thumbs up, and the stupid attempt at wearing nice clothes.
F these people they’re the biggest losers possible.
Yes the clothing, wtf. This is like some weird modern attempt at Miami Vice or something.
Miami Bad Advice
Miami Ice
Why isn’t that fascist piece of shit banned from entry in the Schengen area??
Because fascism is right at home in Europe?

Imagine being so uncritical that you see something like,
You [ICE] have the world watching and supporting your efforts
and just accepting it as truth.
It’s part of the Nazi “silent majority” narrative. They believe that because most people are not saying anything, they must be secretly supporting them. That’s why it’s so important to confront these fucks everywhere - it shatters this narrative.
To be fair, they’re not completely wrong are they?
If you are silent about this shit, you are complicit. And that includes like 40+% of people who live in this country

The craziest thing is this international movement of nationalist xenophobes. I wonder if Bovino conflates Portuguese with Hispanics.
Does his name mean “cow”?
Is this the beginning of a gay porn? Kinda seems that way. But might wanna watch out with those shoe lengths, bovvie, your gonna be a sheep taking it from a moose.
I looked up the event to see that it is indeed a literal white nationalist conference. I won’t link it out of principal but the tagline for the event is:
Shaping the future of Europe and the West through sovereignty, identity, and demographic renewal.
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