• Appeasement never works. In fact, it always has the opposite effect. He just doubles down as soon as he sees “weakness”. You either fight him until he backs down, or he’ll roll right over you.

    Fuck Trump. Carney needs to do what we voted for him to do, and fight.

  • I think the article’s “appeasement” angle is pretty bullshit.

    No one in NATO is boosting military spending to appease Donald Trump - it’s the inevitable response to the realization that the largest NATO contributor is unreliable.

    The recent “MAGA” line was an appeal to American investors to spend money here. It appropriated Trump’s language, but that’s the opposite of what he wants.

    Carney campaigned in decreased reliance on the US, not on severing all ties.

    Actual examples of appeasement would be things like ending the digital services tax, and I’m sure we’ll see more like it when the CUSMA talks get started.

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    So sick of news about his bullshit. For discussion’s sake, I’m wondering if anyone here shares my view with regard to dealing with his threats:

    1. Carney needs to stop trying to play nice with this clown. The Canadian people will not get shit from him.

    2. Canadian media needs to stop reacting to his shenanigans all the time in outrage or fear because it legitimizes him as a tyrant. We need to be mentally prepared for the worst but play it cool. Make him aware that we know that he’s a fucking moron—not a big scary yank emperor that he wants to be seen as. “President of Israeli colony and Epstein File headliner shakes baby-sized fists at Canada in anger… Again” would be a much better title, no?

  • Bubbaonthebeach ( Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I don’t think Carney was playing nice. He’s pragmatic. It is going to take a long time for Canada to shift off exporting to the US. May as well sell what we can until we have other markets. He’s just using Trump’s language to flatter him because, why not, it’s free, and often works. I don’t think Carney, or 90% of Canadians, believe our long term solution is to go back to the way things were with the US. That relationship is dead and gone.

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    Why do so many presumably educated people not know how fascism works? It’s gone down the same way every time in history and there’s no reason it would be different now. You can’t appease it or go along with it, everyone is consumed in the end because that’s how fascism fucking works.

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      I think lots of presumably educated people underestimate how fascist Trump can be. It’s not that they don’t know how fascist ideology works, it’s more like they can’t come to terms that the worst predictions about blatantly fascist Trump get are still not pessimistic enough.

      And also, I don’t think the “appeasement” of fascists come purely from not realizing that they’re dealing with fascism. It’s more like a tight rope where you know you’re fucked but if you play it right you can reduce damages. While I’d love to tell Trump to eat shit, that can’t be our foreign relations policy.

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    I can’t imagine the Canadian people not revolting at a forced annexation, and the moron needs to be removed because of this type of bullshit.