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Sunshine ( Sunshine@piefed.ca ) M to Boycott US@lemmy.caEnglish · 3 months ago

Quote of the day by PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel: 'I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible' — a foundational thesis of the new tech elite

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Quote of the day by PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel: 'I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible' — a foundational thesis of the new tech elite

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Sunshine ( Sunshine@piefed.ca ) M to Boycott US@lemmy.caEnglish · 3 months ago
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QOTD by Peter Thiel on how democracy. and freedom aren't compatible
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Technology has marched forward over the last couple of decades at the same time as basic freedoms and rights have been eroded
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  • floofloof ( floofloof@lemmy.ca ) 
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    And by “freedom” he doesn’t mean your freedom.

    • Septimaeus ( Septimaeus@infosec.pub ) 
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      Yes. Kant’s positive vs negative liberty applies; small gov advocates like Thiel tend to mean the latter.

  • Sunshine ( Sunshine@piefed.ca ) OP
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    We need to stop using PayPal!

    • sepiroth154 ( sepiroth154@feddit.nl ) 
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      No need, just wait until they lock you out of your own account!

      • Sunshine ( Sunshine@piefed.ca ) OP
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        After Trump sanctions you for disagreeing with his policies.

      • TheEighthDoctor ( TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ) 
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        It’s been 10 years since I got locked out of mine

    • i078 ( i078@europe.pub ) 
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      Yeah, I’m ending my account today

    • Reannlegge ( Reannlegge@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I have used it twice once when Musk was just a billionaire and once after he was removed from paypal, they where 2 different accounts. I have no intention of using it again.

  • jtrek ( jtrek@startrek.website ) 
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    I don’t think Thiel is compatible with freedom, nor democracy. If he died we’d all be better off.

    • Sunshine ( Sunshine@piefed.ca ) OP
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      He wants to be king.

      • Alfredolin ( Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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        Litteraly

  • BarneyPiccolo ( BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ) 
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    We no longer believe that Democracy and Sociopathic Oligarchs can co-exist. We choose Democracy.

    • BillyTheKid2 ( BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I mean no offense, but do you choose that?

      What action are you taking towards that end? Because as far as I can tell only a small percentage of the population has rebelled in force, and while they’re celebrated online, the vast majority of people have taken no meaningful action.

      • Jerkface (any/all) ( jerkface@lemmy.ca ) 
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        You’re not going to shoot your way out of this problem, Rambo III.

  • Archangel1313 ( Archangel1313@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Take a good look, folks. This is the face of Anarcho-capitalism. Peter Thiel wants to be your new overlord. Unregulated and unrestrained.

    • dylanmorgan ( dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net ) 
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      I hate having to use that term. It’s just feudalism without even the illusion of a binding social order.

  • joelle_ether ( joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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    These pieces of shit are especially egregious because they promised so much change and hope and opportunity for everyone but all their garbage companies just toed the old line instead of actually “disrupting” anything at all. The only thing they’ve disrupted is everyone’s savings and futures

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮  ( Kolanaki@pawb.social ) 
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    If your freedom depends on others not being free, you really just want the freedom to oppress.

    • GMac ( GMac@feddit.org ) 
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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

  • frustrated_phagocytosis ( frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io ) 
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    Anyone should feel free to utilize the second amendment when this guy appears

  • Mycatiskai ( Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I no longer believe that MY freedom and YOUR democracy are compatible. So you can’t have democracy anymore so I can have my freedom to not be regulated.

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    It’s really kind of sad that these people are surrounded by Yes men for so long that they think every thought they have and everything they say is correct and brilliant.

    It’s like they’ve built their own little personal echo chambers.

    We humans really are a dumb fragile bag of meat and bones.

  • Ariselas ( Ariselas@piefed.ca ) 
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    freedom and democracy are compatible
    Hmm, I might agree Peter

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  • whotookkarl ( whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Billionaire oligarchs are incompatible with democracy, he’s just got it backwards like most anti-humanity fascists tend to do

  • corsicanguppy ( corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 
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    It’s funny how he calls it a lack of freedoms and we call it laws and human rights.

    That’s what he has an issue with: human rights and laws.

  • ZDL ( ZDL@lazysoci.al ) 
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    Well isn’t it obvious? Freedom is only compatible with wealthy elites pressing their boots (or the boots of their paid hirelings) against the necks of the people.

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    He’s right. In his own twisted kind of way. Democracy is in the way of the overly rich to take complete control and become dictators. Being a dictator is their ultimate power fantasy of ‘true freedom’.

    I agree that Democracy is not compatible with his definition of giving the richest people on earth the freedom to have planar authority. So we must get rid of them to save democracy and our own freedom.

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