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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 4 months ago

China Just Dropped Another Bomb on America's Frontier AI Companies

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China Just Dropped Another Bomb on America's Frontier AI Companies

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml )  to Technology@lemmy.mlEnglish · 4 months ago
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Moonshot's Kimi K3 beat Claude Fable 5 and GPT 5.6 in some benchmarks... and it's an open model.
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  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml ) OP
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    Just a day ago, a senior Anthropic executive claimed the U.S. still held a 6 to 9 month lead in frontier AI models, while calling Chinese model distillation adversarial. One day later, Moonshot’s Kimi K3 beat Claude Fable 5 on Frontend Code Arena. And the funniest part is that it is an open weight model.

    So the whole 6 to9 month lead lasted about 24 hours. 🤣

    https://hai.stanford.edu/news/inside-the-ai-index-12-takeaways-from-the-2026-report

    • Benaaasaaas ( Benaaasaaas@group.lt ) 
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      Kimi K3 is not an open weight model, not yet, at least. They promised to releaso on July 27th, but it’s just a promise for now.

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    Why are there so many pictures of Sam Altman just Looking Like That?

    • All Ice In Chains ( anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml ) 
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      If I were him I too would be in disbelief that people are buying my bullshit 24/7. What other expression could express this so well?

  • Nonconfrontational ( Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ) 
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    First bomb they’ve dropped in 50 years, wow.

  • SleeplessCityLights ( SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev ) 
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    The latest model is K2.7, I can decide what wrote the article. Is it more likely than an Ai did not know 2.7 existed or a journalist at Gizmodo is incompetent?

    • apotheotic (she/her) ( apotheotic@beehaw.org ) 
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      The latest model is k3 - its on banners on the moonshot website.

      • SleeplessCityLights ( SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev ) 
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        I found that out when I started to work that day.

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    Can we please not write headlines like that when we’re on the verge of ww3 and literal bombs might be dropped on the US in the coming months?

    • cockmushroom ( cockmushroom@reddthat.com ) 
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      Why not? Do you reall think it matters compared to the wankshite oozing out of their leader’s administration’s mouths?

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        Because I thought China had literally bombed the US for a very tense moment before I finished reading the headline. Especially because of how the words wrapped. I didn’t need that stress.

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          China won’t bomb the US out of the blue. Start worrying about it once the US bombs them first.

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            Imagine a context where the reader is looking at the news for the first time that day. They think they missed news in the morning, perhaps the US starting aggressions, and now China has dropped another bomb.

            I’m sure you can imagine such a scenario

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    yay

  • sudoer777 ( sudoer777@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Kimi K3 looks insane but it’s also very expensive right now, hopefully that changes or I don’t see myself using it over the previous models

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ ( yogthos@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      I mean if it’s going against Anthropic pricing that’s steal a good deal.

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      I thought Anthropic was heavily subsidizing their models but KimmyK is currently cheaper than Fable and is allegedly a pretty good deal. The only thing it’s missing is a comprehensive coding environment like Claude Code and the whole MCP and plugins ecosystem.

      If Anthropic pulls Fable then a Chinese lab will be in front of them for the first time I can think of.

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        Kimi K3 works through OpenCode/Pi. It just got added to OpenCode Go but it’s practically unusable due to the cost (but they might negotiate it down soon), right now you have to use it through OpenRouter or official API, or Kimi Code subscription

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        I don’t get this. How can Chinese models be so performant if they are spending a tiny fraction of US investment. If this difference in investment is down to research investment, then there is something I’m not getting? And, if Chinese models are open, how is it that they can keep ahead of US? Finally, if all this is true, the investors in US AI business is dangerous territory … i would be running away from that inflated investment. Of course i barely understand AI …

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          Chinese schools do have reputation for being extremely difficult and China invests more in actual education.

          Combine that with most US funding being a giant Ourobouros of AI companies funding eachother…

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    This may explain why there are scrappers hammering the Internet using Alibaba cloud.

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    If you are still evaluating options, https://api.getapiomni.com/ might be worth a look: one OpenAI-compatible /v1 key across GLM / DeepSeek / Qwen / Kimi, top up from $1, real-time balance, card / Apple Pay / Google Pay / PayPal, no region locks. Kimi K3 via OpenRouter being too costly - direct routes exist for the same model without the aggregator margin.

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